Exporting America

[alex]

Friday, April 23, 2004 - 6-7pm EST

Join us for our series of special reports, "Exporting America." Hudson Locks, a Massachusetts-based manufacturer, closed its plant in Mexico and brought production back to the United States. We'll tell you why.

Source (Scroll down a bit and click on the link for a list of companies that are actively seeking to export jobs out of America)

 

[Gato_Solo]

Source (Scroll down a bit and click on the link for a list of companies that are actively seeking to export jobs out of America)

And exactly how would that affect you, as a US citizen?

 

[alex]

As a citizen? Not much I suppose. I'll still be a citizen of the US.....but maybe a little less wealthy. I do some contract engineering work on the side at home. Haven't seen any for a while now. Some of it due to 9/11, some due to exporting jobs. I've also noticed it's a little harder to get technical help from someone you can actually understand nowadays. I submitted a service request to Dell a while back and got an email response from someone who obviously didn't speak very good english. I couldn't understand the instructions at all.

 

[Gonz]

The Dept of Labor has the stats but job exportation is not as awful as it sounds. For all the horror stories of jobs going overseas (usually peon jobs) there are virtually no stories on the jobs being imported into the US. They tend to be higher paying skill or managerial positions. It all goes back to what parents told us...get good grades , go & graduate college.

 

[PT]

Yep, the only ones that worry me right now are the programming jobs that are going to India. But, we're still keeping the Sytems Analysts, Systems Engineers, and other higher paying jobs, all they are doing is the low level coding, we still put it all together. Basically, if the US didn't have so many stupid fuckers that thought they were entitled to a great job with great pay for doing next to nothing, we wouldn't have this problem.

 

[alex]

For all the horror stories of jobs going overseas (usually peon jobs)

Next time your kid asks you for money cause he can't find one of those 'peon' jobs, think about it.

 

[Gato_Solo]

Next time your kid asks you for money cause he can't find one of those 'peon' jobs, think about it.

McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Lowe's, Target, etc all have summer hires.

1. Please tell me that those places aren't 'peon' jobs.

2. Please tell me that there are none nearby.

3. Please tell me why a teen-ager would need more money than that.

Jobs are everywhere. Look in the paper. Just because your kid doesn't want to work doesn't mean that a job has been out-sourced. It only means your kid didn't look, or didn't want, what was available.

 

[alex]

WOW, talk about stretching things out of context Gato

Of course there are always gonna be a certain amount jobs available. It wouldn't make sense to cook hamburgers in India and ship them to the US for consumption.....keep it perspective.

Truth is, it's mostly manufacturing jobs......where a lot of kids get their first whack at a 'real' job.

 

[Gato_Solo]

WOW, talk about stretching things out of context Gato

Of course there are always gonna be a certain amount jobs available. It wouldn't make sense to cook hamburgers in India and ship them to the US for consumption.....keep it perspective.

Truth is, it's mostly manufacturing jobs......where a lot of kids get their first whack at a 'real' job.

My first 'whack' at a real job was doing what I do right now. Military service. We're still hiring, too. As for 'out of context', manufacturing jobs have been on the decline since before I graduated High School in 1980. I worked whatever job I could find to try to get through college, so don't tell me that the jobs aren't there. Somebody just isn't looking.

 

[alex]

You seem determined to turn this into a "your kid is lazy and doesn't want to work" topic.

 

[Gato_Solo]

You seem determined to turn this into a "your kid is lazy and doesn't want to work" topic.

Nope. I'm turning it into a "there are still jobs out there so quit trying to say all the jobs have been exported" thread.

 

[Oz]

3. Please tell me why a teen-ager would need more money than that.

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There's no way a fast food joint pays enough to keep the average teen in smoke, booze and drugs

 

[alex]

Nope. I'm turning it into a "there are still jobs out there so quit trying to say all the jobs have been exported" thread.

Funny, I don't recall saying that

 

[PT]

There's no way a fast food joint pays enough to keep the average teen in smoke, booze and drugs

There is if you're willing to sell a few grams out the drive thru....

 

[Professur]

Actually, i consider it a useful limiting factor. when i wanted to quit my first job, I had to quit smoking first. Damn good motivation. Every morning I saw my boss' fat, ugly face made sure I made it through the day without lighting up.

Either the kids limit what they abuse, and make it to work the next day, or they don't, and then have no money for the next party.

 

[Gato_Solo]

Next time your kid asks you for money cause he can't find one of those 'peon' jobs, think about it.

Sounds like you said that to me. Perhaps I mis-understood your point.

 

[Oz]

There is if you're willing to sell a few grams out the drive thru....

Yup, seems to be becoming a popular way of supplementing their income (dealing I mean, dunno about scoring drugs at a burger bar)...

 

[alex]

Sounds like you said that to me. Perhaps I mis-understood your point.

Don't read too much into it Gato, just because I pointed out one scenerio doesn't mean I think there are ZERO jobs in the US

 

[PT]

Don't read too much into it Gato, just because I pointed out one scenerio doesn't mean I think there are ZERO jobs in the US

Dare I ask what your point was then? Do you think it's a bad thing that some jobs are going overseas? Do you think we won't benefit from this in some way?

 

[alex]

My point was: companies are sending jobs overseas for cheaper labor at our expense.