Fire Gonzales

How about they just swear, go on record, and tell the f-ing truth.

When there's a crime, they should.

This is a fishing expedition. Much like Libby, if we harass & pester long enough, sooner or later someone will say something contradictory to sworn testimony & then they can create a crime.
 
Clearly you're from another planet. That ain't the way we do things 'round these parts. ;)

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It ain't gonna change before the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November 2008 either. You (collective) asked for this, you voted for this, now STFU and deal with the consequences of your choices last November. Some of us tried to avoid it. We were over ruled. I don't wanna hear any whining. Created manufactured crises and scandals will continue to be the rule of the day since the voting public endorsed the shit stirrers and put them in power. Hopefully two years of it will be enough to show them the error of their ways. If not, we get spike for another four years.
 
:confused: What does that have to do with all politicians being liars? Expecting any of them to "tell the f-ing truth" is an exercise in futility, isn't it?

Once again, I maintain that it has no effect who's been elected, the same shit's going to happen. :shrug:
 
Expecting any of them to "tell the f-ing truth" is an exercise in futility, isn't it?

True enough, but not allowing them to swear in or have what they transcribed is pretty much encouraging them to lie more.
 
:confused: What does that have to do with all politicians being liars? Expecting any of them to "tell the f-ing truth" is an exercise in futility, isn't it?

Once again, I maintain that it has no effect who's been elected, the same shit's going to happen. :shrug:

Agreeing with your point about "how we do things".
This is how things are going to be done.
 
Expecting any of them to "tell the f-ing truth" is an exercise in futility, isn't it?

Absolutely not. Allowing them to continue to do what they choose, instead of holding them responsible, is our fault.

True enough, but not allowing them to swear in or have what they transcribed is pretty much encouraging them to lie more.

When there's a crime, they should.

This is a fishing expedition. Much like Libby, if we harass & pester long enough, sooner or later someone will say something contradictory to sworn testimony & then they can create a crime.
 
When there's a crime, they should.

This is a fishing expedition. Much like Libby, if we harass & pester long enough, sooner or later someone will say something contradictory to sworn testimony & then they can create a crime.

No, it's an investigation into corruption. Quit encouraging the corruption. They should go on record now.
 
Corruption is, in & of itself, not a crime.

If there are charges, bring them forth.
 
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Bush cleaned house in 2001 and replaced the attorneys in the same way that Clinton did when he came into office. This is pretty much standard practice and we can expect that the next president will do the same.

What has people irked about the 9 AG's recently, is that they were already Bush appointees, but apparently didn't pursue politically motivated cases with enough vigor to satisfy the administration.

Many of these US Attorneys (all Republicans) were investigating corruption cases against Republican elected officials. Now imagine if prosecutors were told by politicians who they were allowed to prosecute and who they could not prosecute.
 
Absolutely not. Allowing them to continue to do what they choose, instead of holding them responsible, is our fault.

I wouldn't say it was totally our fault by any means (being VERY general here) - but in essence i agree Gonz - one cannot but agree with Chcr's skepticism - but if we follow that nihilisitic road too far then we are as you say to blame to a degree.

By "we" i mean the general population of many many societies and political systems across the world -

the phrase 'hill of beans' comes to mind - but at least , still, there are the beans themselves to shape...
 
Williams: Can you answer some of the questions that have come up over the weekend? As you know, there was a — an email that came out Friday night that showed that ten days before the firings there was a meeting in your office which you attended to discuss the firings. And yet when you talked to us here at the Justice Department two weeks ago, you said you were not involved in any discussions about the firings. Can you — can you explain what seems like a contradiction?

Gonzales: Let — let me just say — a wise senator recently told me that when you say something that is either being misunderstood or can be misunderstood, you need to try to correct the record and make the record clear. Let me try to be more precise about my involvement. When I said on March 13th that I wasn't involved, what I meant was that I — I had not been involved, was not involved in the deliberations over whether or not United States attorneys should resign.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17801927/

How do these two statements square?:

"I was not involved in the deliberations over whether or not the US attorneys should resign…"

"I know why I asked these United States attorneys to leave and it was not for improper reasons…"




Time for him to go.
 
If Gonzalez broke federal law by firing the attorneys that Bush appointed, show me the law. Otherwise, IT'S A FISHING EXPEDITION.
 
Since when do you have to be conicted of a crime to get fired?

I'm not saying lock him up just yet. I'm saying fire his corrupt lying ass.

WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was briefed regularly over two years on the firings of federal prosecutors, his former top aide said Thursday, disputing Gonzales' claims he was aware of the dismissals from afar and newly undercutting his already shaky credibility.

This sure ain't no fishing expedition when he's already been caught lying. This is a fully justified investigation.

The White House stepped back from defending Gonzales even before Sampson finished testifying.

"I'm going to have to let the attorney general speak for himself," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said as Sampson entered his third hour in front of senators. Perino made it clear that Gonzales needs to explain himself to Congress - and quickly.

Even the White House knows he's dirty and he's going down.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17852146/
 
Since when do you have to be conicted of a crime to get fired?

You're absolutely right. Those 8 are gone. No crime.

Next.


I'm not defending him. I have no idea if he's lied or not. I don't even care, at this point.
I do care that this fishing expedition is looking to add to the Scooter file. "If we ask enough
questions, sooner or later, they'll trip themselves up."
 
opening for U2 & REM, no doubt (no, not the Gwen Stepaanieniieinsine band)
 
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