France takes a hard left turn

nice work winky. good thing little buddy came along to help huh?

you're both right of course. china is not remotely socialist, and in recent economic history, has not been at all noteworthy.

“The socialist system’s advantages,” Prime Minister ​
Wen Jiabao said in a March address , “enable us to make decisions efficiently, organize effectively and concentrate resources to accomplish large undertakings.”​

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/world/asia/30china.html?pagewanted=all

i'd mention state capitalism but that would confuse you too much. plus, to you, it's all socialism anyway.

just stick to the comic books. both of you.
 
Dear Brorther, after thoroughly searching the files at the NYT, I have come to the conclusion you are correct. China is a freedom loving capitalist society that we should emulate. Winky is a criminal against the people and should be dealt with.
 
texas is doing okay economically but there's no fucking way i'd live there.

christ, you are refining simpleton every day.

"he said it's good mah, he must wanna be like that!"

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hey the nazis were really successful in some ways. think that means i want to emulate them? unless of course... yes that's it, extermination of the mentally feeble...

nah not really. you're just trying to be annoying as usual. you could not possibly believe your own bullshit.
 
Yeah, you're right, I'm a simpleton. I naturally understand that sticking things in yoor pooper just ain't right. ...but I digress

You're here justifying that socialism/communism is in fact a sustainable form of government for a free people. Nope, it t'aint. I understand that you are trying to make the case, but the fact is that "you eventually run out of other peoples money" or efforts.

China; the 5% we see and hear about is nothing like the other 95% kept behind the curtain.
 
2minkey said:
texas is doing okay economically but there's no fucking way i'd live there.

christ, you are refining simpleton every day.

"he said it's good mah, he must wanna be like that!"

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hey the nazis were really successful in some ways. think that means i want to emulate them? unless of course... yes that's it, extermination of the mentally feeble...

nah not really. you're just trying to be annoying as usual. you could not possibly believe your own bullshit.
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Funny thing is...there are some who would espouse that particular Nazi ideal. Of course...their idea is to eliminate any opposing thought to their agenda. Kinda like the US is now. Not that any of you folks can see past your own agendas to recognize that little tidbit.
 
"you folks" huh? hmm....

fortunately a lot of us ain't travis. but you are right that many are similar to little buddy. that's what happens when folks' worldview is limited to oversimplified, ideologically driven pabulum. but i guess that's what you said. resulting in things like accusations of "socialism" from the most nominal characteristic when it fits one's agenda, and outright denial (e.g. china's high level of state involvement in industry, which is socialistic) when it doesn't fit.

it's kinda like this...

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it does me no harm, but i do reserve the right to laugh at it.
 
what are you arguing, tard-o? that china is communist? that china is socialist? that china is neither? for a supposed alpha you sure are wishy-washy like little girl.
 
I'm watching you say that China aint socialist, I'd agree, they're communist who have weaponized capitalism. Temporarily its a great thing for the global capitalist, but it has a messy end for the rest of us.

Team America fuck yeah!
 
dude, you need to sign up for the derek zoolander school for kids that can't read good. china IS socialist. and communist. they also practice an emergent and economically noteworthy form of state capitalism. or perhaps what you are calling weaponized capitalism.

socialist-communist is a trifling distinction; they are largely the same in terms of externally observable phenomena - state ownership of industries, large amounts of GDP invested in social welfare, et cetera. communism seems a little more hard core and seethingly marxist, but they are really the same thing. the only thing differentiating socialism and communism, as practiced but not in any canonical sense, is that overtly communist nations tend more toward authoritarianism. like texas.* and violent vs. passive change. in some cases.

the chinese government is still evil and oppressive in a foundational sense. sure, you can make a buck, but you better not be getting all uppity with social ambition e.g. freedom of speech/political opinion. the chinese system is set up to foster fairly basal industrial concerns. and theft of intellectual property. it's a shitstorm in combat boots. work hard. be thrifty. go along with the crowd. do not raise your voice. very conservative american in some ways (HA) but antithetical to much of what we care about.

*presented for humor value only. texas is a fine state, and i buy many fine metal products from texas companies.
 
shoulda let him nuke the line across the yalu river fer sure. even if he was an obvious and obnoxious oral fetishist.
 
So you're upset at how he handles his corncob? -- I don't even want to know... :eek:

What I gather is: You think this hybrid form of economy actually works in the long term, that its sustainable and people should be happy for a bowl of rice at the end of the day?

So while you might hold China up as a successful example of a socialist country doing well, I don't think its working very well at all.

Pull your head outta' the spreadssheet Bro.
 
ResearchMonkey said:
So you're upset at how he handles his corncob? -- I don't even want to know... :eek:

What I gather is: You think this hybrid form of economy actually works in the long term, that its sustainable and people should be happy for a bowl of rice at the end of the day?

So while you might hold China up as a successful example of a socialist country doing well, I don't think its working very well at all.

Pull your head outta' the spreadssheet Bro.
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no. and no.

you know if you stopped trying to be annoying and actually read things attentively, you would not miss so much.

i said the economy of china is functional and effective. i did not say "yum yum i love the chinese system run at me with that shit."

i made no comment reflecting an opinion as to whether or not that economy is "sustainable" (great choice of word, commie) over the long term, though obviously it will continue to evolve.

i neither want to live there nor do i give a fuck if all they get at the end of a hard day of toil is a bowl of rice. that's kinda what happens in an industrializing nation. but of course you are free to cry a thousand oceans for the plight of the chinese worker.

"i don't think it's working very well at all." WHAT, SPECIFICALLY isn't working?
 
2minkey said:
the economy of china is functional and effective.
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So you're still standing by your claim that socialism works?

I suppose if your an observer, a non participant, checking the ant-farm data from your spaceship, then... It might look to be both functional and effective. Personally, I'm good with God and will roll the dice for personal liberty.
-- Not that I would expect high rolling heathen such as yourself to have a naturally occurring core understanding of simple such things.

Good luck with your cultural evolution.
 
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