Freedom Tower

ris said:
if my memory is correct the height planned by libeskind's winning design was quite specific at 1776 ft. i'd be surprised if he was willing to be budged on that too much.
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Oh yes it was but after much conflict he gave in (his wife threatened to have him walk off the project if the height was changed). The height was incresed because Verizon argued that the oppertunity to place an antenna that high is quite rare. He gave in but i guess it didn't work out.
 
Well i definetely offended someone because someone left me negative feedback on this thread but didn't have the ballz to leave thir name or a reason why.
 
ris said:
if my memory is correct the height planned by libeskind's winning design was quite specific at 1776 ft. i'd be surprised if he was willing to be budged on that too much.
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i thought they decided on 1776 to mark the year of american independence.
 
IDLEchild said:
Because Safety and terrorist attacks are an afterthought to the profits to be had and the patriotism this building would exude.

Terrorist attack of such caliber is highly unlikely though very possible but the money this building will make is a no question deal...
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I wasn't only thinking of terroristic attacks, I was also thinking about "everyday" things like fires and such.
 
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kuulani said:
I don't see the point in building excessively tall skyscrapers to "reclaim" a skyline. If we can't get people out of the building successfully, why would you want to occupy the upper floors of such a skyscraper?
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It's a big city thing (especially NYC).

You are corrrct about the 1776 thing.
 
I think the person most likely to be offended by any of this is me. And I'm not offended. As a matter of fact, I chuckled at little at Rose's first comment, which says to me that I'm probably less uptight about all this than I was a year, two years ago.

The reclaiming of the skyline thing is pretty important to NY'ers I think. I know it feels so empty to me and I feel sad when I look at it now. It really was defined by the towers, what else in the skyline commands such a presence or instant recognition? The Empire State Building and Chrysler Building get lost in the rest of the skyscrapers.

But looking at that pic Gonz posted, I hope the new towers aren't that light and don't blend in as much as they look to be, because it makes the rest of the buildings look dirty. I think Boston did it right with the John Hancock tower, it's my favorite in their skyline:

http://www.greenfreak.net/boston/boston_zoom/zoom_jhancock2.htm
 
What's up with putting 'freedom' in every name? Let Bush sit in his Freedom Tower munching on his Freedom Fries(tm), thinking about International Freedom(tm). Sensible names, please? Or maybe i'm just bitter, i dunno. :shrug:
 
Kawaii said:
What's up with putting 'freedom' in every name? Let Bush sit in his Freedom Tower munching on his Freedom Fries(tm), thinking about International Freedom(tm). Sensible names, please? Or maybe i'm just bitter, i dunno. :shrug:
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Just in case you didn't notice, the tower is also 1,776 ft(like the year 1776). The theme itself is freedom.
 
Gonz said:
It's a big city thing (especially NYC).
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greenie said:
The reclaiming of the skyline thing is pretty important to NY'ers I think. I know it feels so empty to me and I feel sad when I look at it now. It really was defined by the towers, what else in the skyline commands such a presence or instant recognition? The Empire State Building and Chrysler Building get lost in the rest of the skyscrapers.
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Living in a small town, where the only elevator/escalator I ever have to ride on is at the airport,or maybe at the few hotels we have, I don't usually think about things like a skyline ... I can see now though how it's a big deal to Nyers.
 
Kawaii said:
What's up with putting 'freedom' in every name? Let Bush sit in his Freedom Tower munching on his Freedom Fries(tm), thinking about International Freedom(tm). Sensible names, please? Or maybe i'm just bitter, i dunno. :shrug:
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I must be bitter as well, because I think the name sounds daft.
 
HeXp£Øi± said:
Lol. I thought of that years ago. It's really a brilliant idea although it would be quite expensive. Another idea i had was giant parachutes for commercial airliners. Sounds silly but many people would live if the plane hit the ground at even 50mph.
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Actually, they have them for props but not for jets. I'd imagine jets go too fast and thus never slow down enough for parachutes to become effective.
 
Mirlyn said:
Actually, they have them for props but not for jets. I'd imagine jets go too fast and thus never slow down enough for parachutes to become effective.
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It could work but it would be terribly expensive in that a: it would be
huge and b: it would require a system of devices that would have to be implemnted prior to the parachutes engagement to slow the plane down such as streamers and the like. Plus it would probably add a 10% payload onto the plan. It would cost billions to develop, hundreds of millions to implement, and millions to keep up. On the other hand it would probably save hundreds of people per year. Would it be worth the price? You be the judge.
 
kuulani said:
Living in a small town, where the only elevator/escalator I ever have to ride on is at the airport,or maybe at the few hotels we have, I don't usually think about things like a skyline ... I can see now though how it's a big deal to Nyers.
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I guess you could equate it to suddenly losing your volcano. :D
 
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