French retardation!!!

Gonz said:
The Sihks in France need to follow French tradition or go home.
But Gonz, it is not a tradition, it's a newly enacted law by the PC crowd, pure and simple. The government alone can judge what is or is not a "conspicous" display. :shrug: I wouldn't have pegged you as anti-freedom of expression. Oh, and they're Sikhs.
 
How can that law be enacted by the PC crowd? It's not PC to disallow something personal.

So, then, if foreigners don't want to be fingerprinted upon arrival at Dulles because the PC crowd just enacted it, we should allow them free passage?

It's the law. When it's overturned, it's no longer the law. It's not for me to deride.
 
Moi? The hater of all things French. Being obtuse for defending their right to run their country as they see fit?

Ok, I just don't get this whole liberal thing. Can you point out how I can be against something the is right but is supposed to be wrong. I just don't get it.

It reminds me of the whole Patriot act debacle. I'm still trying to find concrete evidence of it abusing our rights & I just can't.
 
Gonz said:
Moi? The hater of all things French. Being obtuse for defending their right to run their country as they see fit?

Ok, I just don't get this whole liberal thing. Can you point out how I can be against something the is right but is supposed to be wrong. I just don't get it.

It reminds me of the whole Patriot act debacle. I'm still trying to find concrete evidence of it abusing our rights & I just can't.

Okay, put it this way. Can Catholics wear the cross? Can Jews wear the Star of David? Laws are supposed to be fair and even handed, this one is arbitrary. It is strictly their business. It's mine if I want to point out how un-democratic it is.

Re the Patriot Act, what you say is entirely true. It takes very little in the way of imagination, however, to see what a terrifying precedent it sets. "I don't like that guy, think I'll anonymously tip off the feds that he's been seen giving money to muslim organizations." I understood why it was enacted, let it expire.

And stop grouping me as a liberal. I know you have this unfortunate need to put labels on everyone, but I am not now nor was I ever a liberal. I occasionally agree with them. I occasionally agree with the conservatives. I usually find either side's ideas to be half-baked, not very well thought out rhetoric with little or no real world application. It's a sound bite world, substance doesn't mean much anymore.
 
Just wait, they'll destroy the other symbols too. They had to start somewhere. It wasn't personal against the Sikhs. I like it when they interfere with rights. It makes the Constitution that much stronger.

The Patriot Act is scary. The potential is very dangerous. Same with RICO & nobody else rails about that.

I didn't call you liberal. You read it that way. And if you look through all these posts, you'll find that I've been labeled plenty of times. It's human nature.
 
chcr said:
Okay, put it this way. Can Catholics wear the cross? Can Jews wear the Star of David? Laws are supposed to be fair and even handed, this one is arbitrary. It is strictly their business. It's mine if I want to point out how un-democratic it is.

from the article originally posted it would appear that Sikhs are not being singled out, but I'm not sure how they'll decide what "large" is in terms of Christian crosses...

The law would ban all "conspicuous" symbols of faith - including Muslim veils, Jewish skullcaps, large Christian crosses and even, if they are considered signs of religious affiliation, beards and bandanas - from all state institutions, starting in September.
 
I didn't call you liberal. You read it that way. And if you look through all these posts, you'll find that I've been labeled plenty of times. It's human nature.

My mistake then.
 
Gonz said:
The Sihks in France need to follow French tradition or go home.



why would they need t follow that tradition? is it a tradition in France to not wear anything on the head? or religious symbols in general?
 
then how is it tradition? they jsut thought of it its not like they did ti for as long as some other traditions. like surrendering
 
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