God help our children
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Inkara1
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Gato_Solo
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Okay, how to come across with this while not seeming lax...
1. What did the children do to deserve such punishment?
2. What other methods of discipline were attempted before this?
As punishments go, I'd rather have the tabasco sauce than the 'canings' I got for being disruptive in school (even at 5 years of age...). Think carefully before you answer. Abuse is a serious charge, and musn't be used lightly. I agree that her punishments were a little off-the-wall, but to call them abuse makes light of true abuse. We all know the difference between discipline and abuse, don't we?
1. What did the children do to deserve such punishment?
2. What other methods of discipline were attempted before this?
As punishments go, I'd rather have the tabasco sauce than the 'canings' I got for being disruptive in school (even at 5 years of age...). Think carefully before you answer. Abuse is a serious charge, and musn't be used lightly. I agree that her punishments were a little off-the-wall, but to call them abuse makes light of true abuse. We all know the difference between discipline and abuse, don't we?
paul_valaru
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Gato_Solo said:Okay, how to come across with this while not seeming lax...
1. What did the children do to deserve such punishment?
2. What other methods of discipline were attempted before this?
As punishments go, I'd rather have the tabasco sauce than the 'canings' I got for being disruptive in school (even at 5 years of age...). Think carefully before you answer. Abuse is a serious charge, and musn't be used lightly. I agree that her punishments were a little off-the-wall, but to call them abuse makes light of true abuse. We all know the difference between discipline and abuse, don't we?
well she is not a parent, she is a daycare worker, and is exceding her mandate, so I think it is abuse. If the child is disruptive you call the parents, kick the kid out, but you don't resort to measures that cause pain, unless you are the parent.
tonksy
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i agree.paul_valaru said:
that being said...i have heard of parents that will use soap, lemon juice, or tabasco sauce in the mouth when a child swears or lies. parents have been doing it for generations. i really don't think i find anything wrong with a parent using these methods so i cring from hearing it called abuse.
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tonksy said:
hell, using it as a parent is ok (well I'm borderline on tabasco, maybe if the others don't work, but I'm can't take the heat I probably see it as a lot worse that someone who eats the stuff)
I used to get soaped a lot
Yep, I agree with all that too. The thing to me is aren't we giving these people temporary custody of our children? Shouldn't they be doing what we would do if we could be there? Now, obviously the mother had a problem with it or someone had a problem with it. If it was my kid and they had done something to deserve it and I trusted the daycare worker, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I'm hiring that person to take care of my child. I'd count myself lucky if she did it the same way I would.tonksy said:
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PuterTutor said:
the parents where shocked and appaled (it was on the local news)
they did not use tabasco etc.
see where the problem is?
now back when schools had the strap, the parents KNEW they were sending the kids to a place where if they misbehaved, they was a chance of getting the strap.
If a parent truly opbected to the strap they could have made other plans (home school, or whatever, and yes I know that some people couldn't due to money time etc, but that is another thread)
these people sent their kids outto this place with no knowledge that these torqumada like measures were going to be applied to their children.
(yes torqumada is a bit much, but I am hyped up on chocolate and toffee)
Slow down on the chocolate. Ok, if the parents had a problem with it, that's a problem. Parents shouldn't be expected to ask their daycare provider if there are any kinds of punishments that they may object to. At the same time, daycare providers should be allowed to use some type of control rather than just sending the kid home. How many 4 year olds do you think would throw a holy bitch fit every morning if they knew it meant that Mommy or Daddy was going to come pick them up?
I guess if there could just be some way to converse about what types of punishments the parents feel are ok and what types of punishments the daycare feels is ok and come to a happy medium before you ever start sending your child there. Of course then you run the risk of unfair punishments too. Little Johnny's mom don't care if you toss him up against the wall but little Suzy can't be touched. Little Johnny is gonna be pissed when they both get caught dipping in the cookie jar.
I guess if there could just be some way to converse about what types of punishments the parents feel are ok and what types of punishments the daycare feels is ok and come to a happy medium before you ever start sending your child there. Of course then you run the risk of unfair punishments too. Little Johnny's mom don't care if you toss him up against the wall but little Suzy can't be touched. Little Johnny is gonna be pissed when they both get caught dipping in the cookie jar.
paul_valaru
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PuterTutor said:
yep, that is why they have to stick to the normal time outs. it all has to be equal. Daycare providers should be trained in how to handle children, and hell a 2 hour time out a kid will remember
paul_valaru
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in reference to the story prof posted (didn't want to quote teh whole thing) those people deserve torqumadas tender care (and that ain't the chocolate talking)
Professur
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Sorry to usurp your thread, paul, but this adds to a point I've made before. People working with kid need to be very carefully watched. Not all, but too damn many people working with kids aren't doing it for the kids welfare. Your Martineau is obviously running a powertrip. Mine, pedos setting themselves up in jobs surrounding themselves with potential victims. But the idea's the same. Get yourself into a position to get your jollies.
paul_valaru
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Professur said:
no appoligies, it is within the subject, and watched, and monitored, and paid more, so we get good poepl doing it.
paul_valaru
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tonksy said:
Is travelling to other countires with lax laws protecting children (or people in general) to have sex usually kinky and/or illegal sex
thailand
