Google vs. Copyright laws - Take I - ACTION!

MrBishop

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Google Inc.'s plan to digitize the collections of some of the world's biggest libraries is facing stiff criticism from a group of academic publishers who complain that the project may violate copyright laws and hurt book sales.

In a letter to Google, Peter Givler, executive director of the Association of American University Presses, said the library project "appears to involve systematic infringement of copyright on a massive scale."

He went on to say that Google's plan to make millions of books searchable online has the potential to seriously hurt the finances of his trade group's 125 members, which include University of California Press. Givler gave Google 30 days to respond to 16 questions, among them how the Mountain View company plans to protect the digital copies against misuse.
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there are allready efforts at stopping this attempt by Google to scan in huge amounts of library books, in order to amke them available to a larger populace.

Intersting idea...but I don't think that it'll fly.
 
They're planning on doing the whole collection of several libraries. Most libraries hold out of copyrights books, but most of them have to be up to date and still copyrighted in order to be useful as reference points for research purposes.

I don't thihnk that anyone would've sneezed if Google was planning on only non-copyrighted books...hell, the Gutenburg Project has been doing that for years now.
 
Copyrights are so passe.
The Internet age is upon us.
If I give you the formula for curing cancer
but it requires billions of dollars of infrastructure
to produce, what have you gained?

Having the knowledge of some ‘process’ like a patented
invention isn’t wrong until you try to make the thing
and sell it for a profit.

Now if you are talkin' a sily assed fiction novel
and it is online and I wanna read it online instead of
going to the library and checking it out WTF is the difference?

Ever-body raise their hand that has gone to the bookstore
in the last month and shelled out
the ridiculous prices they are charging for books these daze!
(don’t see no hands?)

Swear to the holy mutha of Jesus! Nearly 20 bucks
for a book? Hell it's like music on CD's. If getting books
online was as simple as it is to encode music, we'd all
already have access to everthang already anyways!

There, Winky has spoken!
 
Winky said:
Ever-body raise their hand that has gone to the bookstore
in the last month and shelled out
the ridiculous prices they are charging for books these daze!
(don’t see no hands?)
That's why I buy second-hand only, and hit bazaars or garage sales for my books. They're not brand spanking new, but who gives a damn as long as they're legible.

What about shortening the copyright duration on books. Those who do buy the newest Stephen King novel in Hardcover and shell out $45 for it can get it, then those who are willing to wait for 1 year can get the $10 softcovers. After that..sales drizzle, so no huge money loss for the publishers or authors. 5 year max on copyrights!

Yeas or Nays?
 
MrBishop said:
That's why I buy second-hand only, and hit bazaars or garage sales for my books. They're not brand spanking new, but who gives a damn as long as they're legible.

What about shortening the copyright duration on books. Those who do buy the newest Stephen King novel in Hardcover and shell out $45 for it can get it, then those who are willing to wait for 1 year can get the $10 softcovers. After that..sales drizzle, so no huge money loss for the publishers or authors. 5 year max on copyrights!

Yeas or Nays?

That would apply to novel-crap style books. Academic texts should have copyright while the author is alive.
 
Luis G said:
That would apply to novel-crap style books. Academic texts should have copyright while the author is alive.


I disagree, and for one reason. Every book I bought in College was exactly the same as the year before except for one or two different things...

1. A few phrases were changed to make it a 'new edition'.
2. The chapters were re-arranged to make it a 'new addition'.

The cost of the book, however, was always higher than the previous edition. It was a scam that stunk to the highest reaches of space, and one that the professeurs were neck deep into. Seems that all of my texts had the names of my professeurs buried in them somewhere. :mad:
 
You forgot to mention that the presence of a "new edition" means little, if any, value when it comes time to sell back the "old edition" at the end of the semester. Nothing like buying a book for $140 and being told at the end of the semester that they won't buy it back at any price.
 
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