Gotta love homo sapiens

*would like to remind people that she is from NZ, and is not espousing theft from dead people

There is a difference between looting for food by starving tsunami victims, and looting for jewelry by RESCUE WORKERS.
 
What I'd also like to point out and make more clearly for those who failed to addres the angle I was coming from is also the blatant idiocy of this journalism that would rather make a bad-taste and sinister slanted story by using the general outline of supposed "rescue workers" stealing "jewellery" from "victims" (note the achetypal simularity to stealing candy from a baby etc)it is an intentional slant aimed at grabbing your attention by grabbing your personal moral opinions and making them (And not the actual facts and circumstances) the broad focus of the story .

How low is that? LOW I say; Clearly the simplified and whitewashed angle of the article here is intended to do nothing but strike a tone with the automatic moralistic high-ground of its conservative readership (some of the reactions demonstrated here precisely the reception whoever published this intended to get through the story); which is crafted in order to generate a generalised attitude from which one feels that they are in the right position to negatively judge to the "moral behaviour" of the survivors of the Tsunami and the people responsible for the relief effort. If anything, this is negative and convieniently diversive propoganda about the aftermath from undoubtedly the headlines of around the same time: number one probably being Bushes lack of "christian" generousity where it came to pledging a "stingy" amount of $$$ in aid.

If not only just plain and purposefully misleading as it is neglecting to address the actual details and acknowledge that this was only part of widespread looting that was inevitable and is in every disaster aftermath where there is shock, panic, a shortage of food and water and every posession literally wiped off the face of the earth. And NOT even just the "rescue workers" that are doing it. In fact, most of the "rescue workers" in the first few days afterwards were actually desperate LOCALS who had survived (ie: those who had nothing, and were basicaly looking for whatever they could to, most likely TRADE for food and water and other resources. Of course there would have been the few opportunists, but in the gravity of the situation I feel that it is probably highly unlikely where the first thing on your mind would be SURVIVAL. And those tourists and survivors who were courageous enough to stick around and try and assist the clean-up effort (collecting bodies, placing them in body bags, assembling them into morgues) in revolting conditions (stench, heat, threat of disease) rather than escape on the next trip out deserve every inch of respect for the hell that they are and have been going through - rather than a petty article taking a moral spin on the side of the serious humanitarian dilemma of the situation.

For all those who would like to think that I'm so "evil" and "advocating" "looting from the dead" then think what you like - its pathetic and not at all attempting to consider the point I am trying to make. I suggest you check your own stereotypes and consider the fact that everything you read in one silly little biased "news" article doesn't neccesarily mean that is the most intelligent way to react; especially where it is trying to get you from your experiences to judge what, at the moment; is basically a completely (thankfully for most of us) unimaginable world.

Yes, I'm from New Zealand. I don't deny that! But that doesn't mean that I'm unable to be sensitive to the overwhelming priveledge I have because of where I happen to be born in the world, so accordingly I recognise there is absolutely no place for me to look on a situation and come to a conclusion so easily before thinking about because some white, middle class, western journo tells me to feel so-and-so. Therefore feel that there should be no excuse for you (much older and wiser than me..;) ) not to be able to stop for a change and think that there is always a bit more to every story than what appears to be made out...[
 
You have an incredibly low reading comprehension level. Maybe if I put the pertinent part of the original quote in really big letters you can get it.

According to the Nation newspaper in Thailand

The source I aquired it from is World Net Daily. The source they aquired it from wasn't the RNC. :rolleyes:
 
whoops, more western values out the window..... I guess its OK, the kaos, the confusion and little unguarded children.


A teenager who escaped death but was left orphaned and homeless by the Asian tsunami met yet one more agony: gang rape, one of several cases of child abuse being investigated in the disaster zone, an official said.

Wahoo newz


Maybe the UN can settle these camps protect the children from sexual preditors. :lol2:
 
tank girl said:
What I'd also like to point out and make more clearly for those who failed to addres the angle I was coming from is also the blatant idiocy of this journalism that would rather make a bad-taste and sinister slanted story by using the general outline of supposed "rescue workers" stealing "jewellery" from "victims" (note the achetypal simularity to stealing candy from a baby etc)it is an intentional slant aimed at grabbing your attention by grabbing your personal moral opinions and making them (And not the actual facts and circumstances) the broad focus of the story .
You sure are far-reaching for someone who doesn't know shit about why journalists write stories the way they do. How does that shoe taste? Try taking a basic journalism class before you spout off again about how we journalists write our stories.
 
samcurry said:
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That smiley is about to get pnwed !!!!11

*DOWN SAM DOWN*
 
yep, people suck. BBC

They have already survived an experience that most people can scarcely imagine. But the victims of the Asian tsunami now face a new danger - criminals and opportunists trying to cash in on their misfortune.


"Unfortunately it's a golden opportunity for people to make money," said criminal psychologist Mike Berry.

"Some people will be incredibly depressed and that makes them easy targets. They are very vulnerable," he told the BBC News website.

Given the scale of the disaster, it is remarkable that only isolated examples of crime have emerged so far. But for the already traumatised victims, the impact can be devastating.

There are already reports of looting in many of the affected countries - with homes, shops and even dead bodies being targeted.

And in Sri Lanka, some of the disaster victims have allegedly been raped in refugee camps.

One of the most disturbing allegations is that criminal gangs are befriending children orphaned by the tsunami, and selling them to sex traffickers. A spokesman for Unicef in Indonesia, John Budd, said there had been one confirmed case of a child being smuggled from the devastated Indonesian province of Aceh to the nearby city of Medan for trafficking purposes.

He said there were also unconfirmed reports of up to 20 other children being taken to Malaysia, and possible hundreds to Jakarta.


"I don't think you could have a more vulnerable child on earth than a child in this situation," Mr Budd told the BBC News website.

"A young child who has gone through what they have witnessed will be barely surviving in terms of psychological health."

While he stressed that at least some of these children could have been taken by people who are simply well-meaning, Unicef was very concerned that others were being abducted by organised gangs, posing as NGOs or family friends.

Mr Budd has recently become aware of an SMS message being sent widely around Asia advertising 300 Aceh orphans for sale.

He said that as a matter of urgency, Unicef was setting up registration schemes around Aceh to account for all children currently on their own.

False uncle

The threat to children is not confined to Aceh. There are reports that a 12-year-old Swedish boy injured in the tsunami in Thailand may have been kidnapped from a hospital.

The boy's American father flew to Thailand to find him. But although staff said he had been there the day after the disaster, there was no longer any trace of him. According to Unicef, a man in India who claimed to be one child's uncle turned out to be a fraud.

In Sri Lanka, the National Child Protection Authority is investigating reports that two girls were sexually abused at a shelter in Galle, and a separate report that another woman was gang raped.


Police told the French news agency AFP that they had received no complaints of rape, but a rights group in Columbo, the Women and Media Collective, said it had been told of "incidents of rape, gang rape, molestation and physical abuse".

"There is likely to be a lot of anger around, and this can be taken out on the women," said psychologist Mr Berry.

Even the dead are not safe from those who want to cash in on the disaster.

Jewellery has been reportedly stolen from the bodies of victims in Thailand - and from their homes and shops.

Other countries in the region have been plagued with fake tsunami warnings.

In both East Timor and Malaysian Borneo, false reports of an imminent disaster have forced people from their homes - leaving them empty, and ideal hunting grounds for looters.

Opportunists are not only targeting the countries directly affected by the quake, but also others - many on the other side of the world - which have lost citizens in the disaster.

More than 2,000 people are feared dead in Sweden, but the authorities in Stockholm have said they are not publishing the names of those affected for fear that thieves could break into their properties.

Even those who want to donate to the crisis have been affected.

A collection box for the disaster appeal was stolen from Salisbury Cathedral in England, and fake email messages claiming to be from Oxfam have been sent to people in Hong Kong, asking them to donate money to the relief effort. Any money donated went instead to a bank account in Europe, according to police and charity workers.
 
Now, now. Let's play nice. Just because some of us here don't actually read for knowledge (just opinion), that doesn't mean that we can go around bashing that person...even if that person is totally misguided. All we should do, is point that person in the correct direction, and hope thay don't wander off the path of enlightenment into the minefield of mediocrity. ;)
 
SouthernN'Proud said:
Gato Solo...Patron Saint of Lost Causes and the Clueless...or is that one already assigned to someone else?


I thought that was your job. I'm the sign pointing in the right direction, and you get to be the cattle prod when they wander off the path...:lol:
 
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