Idiots

Gonz said:
No ma'am. That was my sense of misplaced emotion

You should sue the hospital that did it......they took more than just the 'misplaced' emotion :D

Gonz sans misplaced emotion said:
Now that is funny.

Ah, I try my best to make you laugh everyday, it's what I strive for ;)
 
My ol lady made 13,000 last year. State basic health turns her down for too high of an incme. Tell me that's right?
 
markjs said:
My ol lady made 13,000 last year. State basic health turns her down for too high of an incme. Tell me that's right?

Well, Gonz thinks so. :)
 
[Rant]

Everyone talks about the war in Iraq and their non existent WMD. If you go by the information at hand it was a major fuck up by the intelligence agencies (admitted in both parliment and in congress). Now you can go on and on about how thier aren't any there now (point taken) but if you go on the information at hand posted by many news agencies you see a commonality no one has a shred of proof that he knew they didn't; quite the contrary in fact. Please until you can PROVE otherwise don't make your assumptions state as facts!
Bush does have one major weakness I'd have to agree with and that is he has his attention pulled away from whats happening here! I don't think I have ever heard any other president saying hes willing to run deficits (correct me if I'm wrong) like I recall Bush saying. Alot of work was put into bringing our deficit down and was a major issue not even a decade ago yet he seems to have missed that entirely.
Lastly health care and prescription costs are two seperate things. I have to agree that prescription costs are extremely high in the states compared to like canada.
[/Rant]

All in all I'm not a bush lover nor am I bush hater he's made mistakes and he's made some good choices!
 
they have their reasons for hating us dark. thats why i wouldnt use the shut the fuck up on them. same as we hate certain countries and shit for various reasons.
 
freako104 said:
they have their reasons for hating us dark. thats why i wouldnt use the shut the fuck up on them. same as we hate certain countries and shit for various reasons.
Forgot to add [sarcasm]
 
chcr said:
I know you don't like this document, you try after all to ignore it constantly, but it is after all the blueprint for America. If you don't wish to live by it, get out. :shrug:


Actually I have a copy of the entire thing hanging right in front of me. A copy of the Bill of Rights too. I completely & whole heartedly believe in them. In fact I joined the service to defend them. I will still fight & die to defend them. Do not question my integrity when it comes to the Constitution.

Now, in a more peaceful light, people have been fighting for 215+ years over the exact meaning of that phrase. I will refer you to the Federalist Papers. (a link will be provided should you need one). The men who wrote teh greatest governmental document around did not intend for we the people to pay for you the other peoples healthcare (or food or clothing or housing or power & water or cell phone or gasoline or anything else in that order)

I believe that thie second paragraph will also answer Marks post
 
How could I have forgotten the gospel according to Gonz. You're interpretation is the only legitimate one because you read something that says so. I prefer to draw my own conclusions. You keep quoting things Gonz, it's what you're good at.

Re. the constitution, I notice you want to change it when it clearly allows something you don't like.
 
drkavnger99 said:
Please until you can PROVE otherwise don't make your assumptions state as facts!

But that is EXACTLY what put us there in the first place. And people are DEAD because of it...:disgust2:
 
chcr said:
You're interpretation is the only legitimate one because you read something that says so. You keep quoting things Gonz, it's what you're good at.

Re. the constitution, I notice you want to change it when it clearly allows something you don't like.


Yes, I read. If you'd bother to go thru the Federalist Papers*, written by the framers of the Constitution for those of you who don't kow, you'd see the arguments & reasonings those men had with what was written. It explains where they were headed & why they wanted to get there. It's what judges are supposed to do today...take a look at what the law says & its intent.

Rulings are supposed to be filtered down, first and foremost through the Federal Constitution. That is the basis & founding document of our country. It sets the standard that all else must follow. If it's "living & breathing" then it can not be a standard. It becomes one more piece of shit to be burned in the end. If someone comes up with a better plan, then that is acceptable. As of February 12, 2004, nobody has a better plan.

I quote things because some people have a better way to express what I think than I do (or care to try) or because it's one more piece of evidence towards what I'm saying. I think it's better to show the information up front, instead of looking for verification or support in the heat of battle.


What am I changing in the Constitution? Where does it say that gay marriage or healthcare (as examples) are rights? I don't see that anywhere. If the Constitution does not specifically enumerate a function of government, then is is specifically forbidden. As I pointed out earlier, the phrase "the genertal welfare" has caused headaches from the beginning. More as time has passed.


*assuming you haven't
 
*assuming you haven't
Have. (required when I took American History in H.S., read again on my own during the Reagan administration to be certain I was clear on freedom of religion.) Neither does the constitution specifically provide freedom of religion. Do you think you have it? I find your interpretaion of both documents to be narrow minded and self-absorbed. The framers of the constitution arrived at this document through debate. It is clearly meant to be a living document. Fortunately for the rest of America, the framers were significantly more open minded than you seem to be. Things you agree with are seemingly carved in stone, things you don't are seemingly someone else's misinterpretation. You don't possibly suppose that the framers intended for the constitution to be interpreted and wrote it that way?

You know what, never mind.
 
Squiggy said:
But that is EXACTLY what put us there in the first place. And people are DEAD because of it...:disgust2:



he just added he was being sarcastic Squiggs. but I agree with you
 
chcr said:
You know what, never mind.

No, no, no. It's just getting truly interesting.

chcr said:
Neither does the constitution specifically provide freedom of religion.

That can be taken two ways.
1)You're right, that would be the Bill of Rights, or;
2)You're right, it only prohibits Congress from passing laws against or for religion. Example- satanists may not kill small cute fuzzy bunnies for a sacrifice but they can be satanists if they wish.

Which were you intending (or another?)
 
I worded it very poorly-but it goes far deeper than just that Eric

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
 
oh i know but prohibiting the exercise thereof may mean as you said Satan worshippers not making sacrifices but sometimes they can break teh law(kidnapping and murder).
 
Well, I'm not a supporter of Bush. However....

The economy? Not Bush's fault. It was the fault of 19 guys in airplanes that detroyed our confidence. When 9/11 happened, it changed us, big time. To blame that on Bush is like saying the Great Depression was Warren Hardings fault, becuase he was in office when it happened.

Patriot Act? That I do feel was some of Bush's doing, and although I am against it, logically I can see where it came from too, and put in that postion, probalby would have fought to get it as well. Now, the thing is we need to have it repealed, voided, or whatever we do to defunct legislation.

The war in Iraq. Hmm.. Still wavering on whether that was a good thing or not. I don't appreciate being lied to about it, yet at the same time, Bush did what should have been done 12 years ago.
 
If it was to be done, it should have been done during Desert Storm. With a full coalition and immediate cause to back it up. You don't use the cause of 9/11 to fuel emotions to attack a country that you know had nothing to do with it. There were other ways to accomplish whats been done. There is no way to undo the wrongs.
 
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