Internet paedophile entrapment methods "illegal"

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By Nick Farrell: Thursday 04 August 2005, 08:53

THE US equivalent of Inspector Knacker of the Yard is going to have to come up with a new way of feeling the collar of paedophiles.
The time honoured way for cops to catch internet paedophiles is to hang around on chat groups pretending to be potential victims.

However, according to a federal court judge in Kansas City, Judge Dean Whipple they can no longer do that sort of thing.

Whipple acquitted Jan Helder yesterday of using the Internet to try to entice a child into sex.

Helder’s brief, JR Hobbs, said that his client, didn’t break federal law because the person his client was accused of enticing wasn’t a kid but a Platte County deputy pretending to be one.

Helder, 42, had faced a sentence of five to 30 years, until the Judge agreed with the brief and let him walk free.

According to the Columbia Tribune, the prosecution is planning an appeal, but in the unlikely event that the decision is upheld, it does put the kibosh on police turning over paedophiles in this way.

It would also stop cops dressing up as women to catch kerb crawlers, handbag snatchers and spoil a lot of cop sit-coms where they seem to do that sort of thing all the time.

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*orders more cement shipped to S&P's hideout.*
 
Well...it is entrapment. :shrug: What we need is a law written to specifically protect children where this practice would be legalized. Most judges already know that children shouldn't be used this way, but, evidently, this one judge feels differently, so we now have to re-open every case that has been successfully prosecuted using this method, possibly letting those already in jail for this free.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Well...it is entrapment.

Sadly, he's right.

I once supervised a creep who was caught this way. He was unrepentant, and said that he would do it again every chance he got. Fortunately, I was able to bust him on a technical violation, and he is being anally raped in prison as we speak I hope. By someone who makes Ron Jeremy jealous.

IMO, this is a clear cut case of the ends justifying the means. We talk tough all day long about protecting our children...and now a ruling like this comes down the pike. No wonder people have no faith in the system.

Ultimately, the responsibility falls to the parents to monitor their kids' online activity, but we all know how that works.
 
SouthernN'Proud said:
Sadly, he's right.

I once supervised a creep who was caught this way. He was unrepentant, and said that he would do it again every chance he got. Fortunately, I was able to bust him on a technical violation, and he is being anally raped in prison as we speak I hope. By someone who makes Ron Jeremy jealous.

IMO, this is a clear cut case of the ends justifying the means. We talk tough all day long about protecting our children...and now a ruling like this comes down the pike. No wonder people have no faith in the system.

Ultimately, the responsibility falls to the parents to monitor their kids' online activity, but we all know how that works.

The last line sums it up quite nicely. Unfortunately, most parents can't be bothered to watch their children, leaving them to their own devices. They want to be friends instead of teachers/role models. "That's what the schools are for..." is their mantra. "I have my own needs that must come first", is their creed.
 
Gato_Solo said:
The last line sums it up quite nicely. Unfortunately, most parents can't be bothered to watch their children, leaving them to their own devices. They want to be friends instead of teachers/role models. "That's what the schools are for..." is their mantra. "I have my own needs that must come first", is their creed.
Yup. There are myriad gamete donors but actual parents seem to be quite rare. Maybe it's where I grew up, but it seemed different when I was a kid.
 
chcr said:
Maybe it's where I grew up, but it seemed different when I was a kid.

Oh, could I ever preach on this one. 'Tis late, though...maybe next time.

No, it ain't the where, it's the when.

Main reason for building the hermit retreat. That thing needs a name...might hafta post a poll on that later...hhmmmm.
 
SouthernN'Proud said:
Main reason for building the hermit retreat. That thing needs a name...might hafta post a poll on that later...hhmmmm.
Sanctum Sanctorum - Worked for Dr.Strange :)
 
Hire an underaged kid to help. :shrug:

Pedophilia crimes are to henceforth be know as shoot on sight crimes.
 
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