Iraq Study Group verdict

SouthernN'Proud said:
Terrorism perpetrated by...
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Do we go find out what religion McVeigh, this guy, the DC sniper, the people who set all those churches on fire, and consider ourselfs at war with their entire religion?

No, that would be as dumb as thinking we're at war with all muslims.

I know who our enemy is. I act accordingly. That includes not voting them into my congress, not defending them, and paying attention to what they and their leaders say and do. My perfect right. If the unearthly attraction to be PC at all costs compels you or anyone else to defend these lower forms of life, so be it. I
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Are you calling muslims a lower life form? Damn, you really take Jesus' teachings to heart.
 
The DC Sniper was Muslim
Hence why I mentioned Eric Roudolph. McVeigh is good too since he may have been coaxed by the Christian Identity as well.
 
spike said:
Are you calling muslims a lower life form? Damn, you really take Jesus' teachings to heart.
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No. Putting words into the mouths of others is far from impressive. What I am calling them is misguided, misled, and dangerous. Beyond that it's your own rhetoric in a failed attempt to pass it off on me. Try again.
 
2minkey said:
yeah i'd FAR prefer the imaginary problems and imaginary solutions (nevertheless costing hundreds of billions) pushed by so-called "conservatives," far removed from the reality that is, um, aperant.

hold on... i gotta go hide from the blue helmets and black helicopters. maybe they're here to try to make me a pussy communist by taking away my firearms... i'll be back in a while...
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Imaginary huh?
 
SouthernN'Proud said:
No. Putting words into the mouths of others is far from impressive. What I am calling them is misguided, misled, and dangerous. Beyond that it's your own rhetoric in a failed attempt to pass it off on me. Try again.
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Why don't you just tell me who you meant when you said it?
 
Why should I? You are obviously able to read minds, predict the future, speak for others, and solve the world's problems all by your little lonesome. What do you need anybody else for?
 
Copout.

I know who our enemy is. I act accordingly. That includes not voting them into my congress, not defending them, and paying attention to what they and their leaders say and do. My perfect right. If the unearthly attraction to be PC at all costs compels you or anyone else to defend these lower forms of life, so be it.

Seemed obvious you were calling muslims lower life forms. If that's the case who were you talking about? Don't be scared.
 
This is why fights start.

example:Muslims are terrorists...

is a valid, albeit oversimplified, statement. I doubt anyone here, including spike, is speaking of every single individual when making sweeping statements.

It's kinda like typing IMO in every post. If you typed it & it's not already a widely known fact, then we should alrerady assume that whatever one said was in their opinion.
 
Let me put this as simply as I can.

Muslim=misguided IMO. No exceptions. Call me what you like. I can't state it any simpler than that.
 
BeardofPants said:
SnP, you do know that Devlin from PiL is muslim, don't you? Do you consider her to be evil and misguided?
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Take it a step further, BoP. I consider anyone who follows any religion to be misguided. Not (necessarily) evil or even stupid, but certainly misguided. :shrug:

OTOH, if someone of apparent middle-eastern origin gets on a flight I'm flying on, I will pay more attention to them. I won't be proud of it but I will do it. I didn't make the world this way, I'm just trying to live in it.
 
Gonz said:
example:Muslims are terrorists...

is a valid, albeit oversimplified, statement. I doubt anyone here, including spike, is speaking of every single individual when making sweeping statements.
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I'll say it again. I do not think most muslims are terrorists. I do notice that most terrorists are muslim.
 
SouthernN'Proud said:
I'll say it again. I do not think most muslims are terrorists. I do notice that most terrorists are muslim.
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I'm not so sure that's really the case, SnP. I've seen data to support that but I've also seen data that contradicts it. Certainly they're the only ones that get on the news here though.
 
chcr said:
I'm not so sure that's really the case, SnP. I've seen data to support that but I've also seen data that contradicts it. Certainly they're the only ones that get on the news here though.
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They are the ones we hear about the most though when I was in my terrorism course, we heard more from the Tiger Liberation Front in Sri Lanka than Muslim ones. There was a chart my teacher put up but I can't seem to add it to here, Muslim terrorists were in third for most amount of terrorist activities
 
freako104 said:
They are the ones we hear about the most though when I was in my terrorism course, we heard more from the Tiger Liberation Front in Sri Lanka than Muslim ones. There was a chart my teacher put up but I can't seem to add it to here, Muslim terrorists were in third for most amount of terrorist activities
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Well now freak, aren't most Sri Lankans (including the TLF) muslims? I mean they don't have the same agenda as the middle-eastern terrorists but that isn't the question.

Maybe there is something basic to muslim philosophy that does encourage these kinds of acts. I suspect it's rather more to do with oppression and economics than religious beliefs myself, but I could be wrong.

I suppose if I cared that much about the answer I'd do the research and figure it out myself. After consideration though, I suspect that SnP is right and more terrorists are muslim, just not necessarily middle-eastern muslim.

rrfield said:
Is this poor guy a terrorist?
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Absolutely.
 
Gonz said:
Yep. Nuts too. Ought to be in Cuba. However, he is an American & must be treated as such. So he gets life in solitary. Fair trade.
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Why Cuba? He is American so let him be in an American prison and let others know he is a terrorist. They should act accordingly
 
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