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Gonz

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He said something that I agree with :eek:
Democrat John Kerry said he opposes state laws that give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants,
Boston

of course there is the other crap

a long autumn
Today, the Kerry campaign will announce that it has raised at least $175 million for the run-up to the general election in this presidential cycle, breaking the record that George W. Bush set in 2000 of more than $130 million. His challenger this year has come a long way from those days after the Super Tuesday primaries on March 2, when Jeffrey Birnbaum of The Washington Post predicted on Fox News that Kerry would raise ''a lot of money. . . but nothing like the $170, maybe $200 million in total that the Bush campaign will raise." (For its part, the Bush campaign is celebrating a tally in excess of $210 million, the new record.)

maybe Tuesday we'll know for sure
VICE PRESIDENT HILLARY; SPECULATION INTENSIFIES IN WASHINGTON

Official Washington and the entire press corps will be rocked when Hillary Rodham Clinton is picked as Kerry's VP and a massive love fest will begin!

So predicts a top D.C. insider, who spoke to the DRUDGE REPORT on condition he not be named.

"All the signs point in her direction," said the insider, one of the most influential and well-placed in the nation's capital. "It is the solution to every Kerry problem."

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"There are three issues that this campaign will be decided on -- national security, health care, and the economy, not necessarily in that order."

"Kerry believes that no one is better on national security than he is, he served in Vietnam after all, so he has that covered and the suggestion that he needs to strengthen the ticket with someone who has national security credentials is dismissed as foolish."

The insider continues: "The Democrats feel like health care is the domestic issue. But how to make it the dominant topic of conversation -- break through war and terrorism? Hillary Clinton. She catapults it out front with her commission. She tried to provide health care before and the Republicans in congress attacked her and her husband and used a bunch of scandals dirty tricks to stop it, we know they are scandals and dirty tricks because the former president book says so. So now you have the number two person on the ticket who is a 'health care expert' and what will Republicans do? Attack on health care pointing to her commission saying that it was government medicine. Her response -- it wasn't, and the Republicans are a bunch of dirty tricksters, "Liars and Crooks," as Kerry calls them, and its been too long and Democrats wont let the Republicans do it to them again. By the way, it puts prescription drugs on the back burner, the Republicans health care ace. You will have a fully engaged national debate on health care from now until the election."

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"The Democrats economic plan is to say Bush sucks, it's never enough, we must get back to the Clinton Era when 22 million jobs were created. You can't do much better at making that point then-- Kerry/Clinton 2004.

"But what about impeachment and Monica -- wont that overshadow her being picked? It' now been covered in the book. Not only that, but she is a women scorned who has dealt with what so many American women deal with and stuck it out to keep her family together. And Whitewater? It's in the book. Vince Foster? Book. Billing records, White House travel Office? Book, book. All have been covered. All Republican slime tactics.

"Why would Kerry make such a public spectacle about trying to get John Mccain, wont whoever you pick be considered a second choice. Not if it is Hillary!

"There are differences of opinion about how this election will be won but one school says its all about the base. Republicans are bumping up against the ceiling with support from their base and Democrats are sitting on the floor. This would change that.

"Official Washington and national media will fall in love with the idea immediately letting Kerry/Clinton dominate the news through July and up to the Republican convention. She will say she is doing it for the good of the country. I am convinced this is going to happen."

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"But what Hillary about having to wait to run for president? If Bush wins then she is the nominee for 2008 because it will be all Kerry's fault. If she wins she is the first woman VP of the United States, which would help her become the first woman president of the U.S. It would be historic in its own right and change the nature of politics in this country, and mark her place in the history books for ever-- a different history than her husbands."

Developing...
 
Doncha remember that before Schwarzenegger saved California, Grey 'Out" Davis passed a law saying it's ok.

They weren't the first.
 
Gonz said:
Doncha remember that before Schwarzenegger saved California, Grey 'Out" Davis passed a law saying it's ok.

They weren't the first.

no, i don't remember. i'm not that into america's internal politics, as you can understand.

at least our government is a little bit tough on those kind of things (only recently though :rolleyes: )

they realized that if you're illegal in the country, you shouldn't have any rights either. took a few years, but they finally got there...
one of the reasons i seriously dislike and distrust politicians; for some reason they lose view on reality, if they're in the business long enough...
 
Shadowfax said:
they realized that if you're illegal in the country, you shouldn't have any rights either.

Careful, you're treading into our side of the pool :D
 
Gonz said:
Careful, you're treading into our side of the pool :D

nope, just logic sense; if i go to another country without the proper visa, i'm illegal as well, thus i have no rights.
same goes for people trying that here. if you're not allowed in the country, you don't have any rights either. simple as that.

and stop putting labels on people...it's getting tiresome. there's more to life than left-right/liberal-conservative/etc

try to think a little bit different than just plain black/white, and you'd be doing everyone a favor.
 
I don't do grey (gray?). I have convictions & none of them are with the judicial system.
 
that's the entire problem...cause so often there are grey area's. not everything is black and white. there's so much more to it than that. but you know that, it's just that you don't like to admit it ;)
 
Yes I do know that that each individual circumstance is different. I also know that for fairness & justice, only one set of rules can be in play. If we move the line for each individual, over time, the line is blurred beyond recognition & there are no rules.
 
Gonz said:
Yes I do know that that each individual circumstance is different. I also know that for fairness & justice, only one set of rules can be in play. If we move the line for each individual, over time, the line is blurred beyond recognition & there are no rules.

i agree that we shouldn't keep altering rules, using different rules (and standards) for different people all the time. but that has nothing to do with putting labels on people.
not everyone is either pure liberal or pure conservative; not everyone is pure left, or pure right.
a lot of people see good (and bad) in both and their opinion comes close to something that can be found somewhere in the middle.
like i said, don't instantly put labels on people, it's annoying, untrue and is definately getting tiresome.
 
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