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Man Sues State of Maine for Banning Santa Claus Beer Label

PORTLAND, Maine — A beer distributor says Maine is being a Scrooge by barring it from selling a beer with a label depicting Santa Claus enjoying a pint of brew.

In a complaint filed in federal court, Shelton Brothers accuses the Maine Bureau of Liquor Enforcement of censorship for denying applications for labels for Santa's Butt Winter Porter and two other beers it wants to sell in Maine.

The dispute recalls a similar squabble last year when Connecticut told Shelton Brothers it had problems with its Seriously Bad Elf ale.

"Last year it was elves. This year it's Santa. Maybe next year it'll be reindeer," said Daniel Shelton, owner of the company in Belchertown, Mass.

The lawsuit, filed Thursday, contends the state's action violates the First Amendment by censoring artistic expression.

But the state says it's within its rights. The label with Santa might appeal to children, said Maine State Police Lt. Patrick Fleming. The other two labels are considered inappropriate because they show bare-breasted women.

"We stand by our decision and at some point it'll go through the court system and somebody will make the decision on whether we are right or wrong," he said.

The lawsuit was brought by the Maine Civil Liberties Union, which says the beer labels are entitled to First Amendment protection.

"There is no good reason for the state to censor art, even art found on a beer label," said Zachary Heiden, staff attorney for the MCLU.

The label for the English-made Santa's Butt Winter Porter features a rear view of a beer-drinking Santa Claus sitting atop a barrel. The beer's name refers not only to Santa's ample backside, but also to the barrel. In England, brewers once used a large barrel called a "butt" to store beer.

Maine also denied label applications for Les Sans Culottes, a French ale, and Rose de Gambrinus, a Belgian fruit beer.

Les Sans Culottes' label is illustrated with detail from Eugene Delacroix's 1830 painting "Liberty Leading the People," which hangs in the Louvre and once appeared on the 100-franc bill. Rose de Gambrinus shows a bare-breasted woman in a watercolor painting commissioned by the brewery.

In a letter to Shelton Brothers, the state denied the applications for the labels because they contained "undignified or improper illustration."

The state reviews between 10,000 and 12,000 applications a year for beer and wine labels. It typically denies about a dozen a year because they contain inappropriate language or nudity, or might appeal to children, Fleming said.

"Basically, the standard we use is what are people going to see walking up and down a store aisle," he said.

Shelton said his company filed a lawsuit against the New York State Liquor Authority last month after it denied his applications for six holiday-themed beer labels, including Santa's Butt Winter Porter. The state changed its mind but the lawsuit is going forward, he said.

In years past, the company has had labels challenged in a few states, including Ohio, North Carolina and Missouri, he said.

States have the power to regulate alcohol through the 21st Amendment, which repealed Prohibition in 1933. "But I don't know where they get the idea they can ignore the rest of the Constitution," Shelton said.

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So... does the government have any business infringing upon the artistic expression on bottles of alcohol? I don't think they have the authority to mess with non-alcohol designs... but since this comes under the greater regulations adults only products, they have been sticking their fingers steadily into areas that have no bearing upon their original mandate. Its not like the label is showing graphic sex or bloodshed.
 
Why are kids in the liquor stores?

Believes Maine to be them of them kinda states
 
So... does the government have any business infringing upon the artistic expression on bottles of alcohol? I don't think they have the authority to mess with non-alcohol designs... but since this comes under the greater regulations adults only products, they have been sticking their fingers steadily into areas that have no bearing upon their original mandate. Its not like the label is showing graphic sex or bloodshed.

I'd have figure "artistic expression" would fall under "freedom of speech".:shrug:
 
Why are kids in the liquor stores?

Believes Maine to be them of them kinda states

Out here it is legel for minors under 21 to be in liquer stores but they cannot buy the booze, the beer is sold in all supermarkets and c-stores...
 
In AZ & Cali, booze is available anywhere that an alcohol license can be bought (drive thru liquor stores & gas stations were so convenient). In IN, anywhere that serves cold pop can't sell cold beer (and vice versa) & liquor can only be bought in liquor stores. Some states have State controled liquor stores & minors aren't allowed in those. I think ME is one of the pains in the ass.
 
In AZ & Cali, booze is available anywhere that an alcohol license can be bought (drive thru liquor stores & gas stations were so convenient).

Yeah, here liquor is available in the grocery store, 7/11, etc. I'm curious what the laws are in Maine.

Regardless what the laws are in Maine though I don't see a problem with the Santa label, and it seems even a label with explicit sex on it should be ok if it's hidden from view the same way pron mags are.
 
In California, whether a place sells no alcohol, beer and wine, or hard liquor depends on its license. I've never seen a 7 Eleven (or any chain convenience store... AM/PM, Circle K) in California that sells anything beyond beer and wine. Supermarkets, drug stores (Longs Drugs, Rite Aid) and liquor/spirits stores are good places to go for the hard stuff.
 
I've never seen a 7 Eleven (or any chain convenience store... AM/PM, Circle K) in California that sells anything beyond beer and wine.

I have a 7 Eleven 2 blocks in one direction and another two blocks in the other direction. One has a fully stocked liquor section and sells Playboy/Penthouse/Hustler/etc and the other has neither.

Must be up to individual management :shrug:
 
Possible... they're franchised stores and so it would seem to be up to the individual owners to apply for the liquor licenses.
 
clever publicity stunt though. :shrug:

call me cynical ... but the guy couldn't keep a straight face after last years' bad elf .. when he said .."next year it will be reindeer!" :rofl2:

good on him / them!

exploit this controversial craziness to the hilt.

you americans ... sheesh!

next you lot'll be telling me i can't have santa, or christ, or mince pies for christmas or somet! :bgpimp:



Just look at da bish ... an' then tell me Santa don't have a big butt!
 
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