Mars Express Confirms Water Ice on Red Planet

MrBishop

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Woohoo!!!!

The European Mars Express orbiter has confirmed the existence of water ice in the south polar cap of Mars. The craft also beamed back a detailed photo of a channel on the red planet that might have long ago been created by flowing water.
Scientists have long known that Mars' north polar cap is composed mostly of water ice. Previous observations by NASA (news - web sites)'s Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) had experts convinced the south polar cap contained water ice, too.
In fact there appears to be a vast store of frozen water mostly buried under a blanket of carbon dioxide ice, commonly called dry ice.
Some of the dry ice melts away during summer in the southern hemisphere of Mars, exposing sheets of water ice below -- that's what MGS had found photographic evidence for.
Now Mars Express has made the first detection of a chemical signature of the water ice at the south pole. Officials said today they had essentially seen the vapors of water at the surface.
"You look at the picture, look at the fingerprint and say this is water ice," said Allen Moorehouse of European Space Agency. "This is the first time it's been detected on the ground. This is the first direct confirmation."
The presence of water ice was noted by the orbiter's camera and confirmed by a infrared spectrometer, which splits light like a prism and analyzes the chemicals involved in producing the light.
In other observations made by NASA's Mars Odyssey probe over the past couple of years, scientists have found strong evidence for water ice buried in the Martian soil away from the permanently frozen polar caps. Altogether, Mars appears to contain significant amounts of water, but so far what's been found is all frozen.
No firm evidence yet exists that there is or ever has been liquid water on Mars, a condition scientists say is essential for life. NASA's robotic rover missions are designed to search for signs of lakes or oceans that might once have covered the planet.
Mars Express is just beginning its science operations. It will settle into its final and proper orbit on Jan. 28. The Beagle 2 lander, which traveled to Mars on the Express, has yet to respond to hails from Earth.
The European orbiter also returned a new high-resolution image of a channel called the Reull Vallis. Scientists suspect it might have been formed long ago by flowing water, but some researchers say other material could have created the many channels on the red planet.
-- The Associated Press contributed to this report
  • Water on Mars....Water!!! The source of life and proof that live might very well have existed on Mars!!! LIFE!!!
 
Dude.....

Of course now the question is why there isn't life there now? Did we come from mars after nuking it to oblivion?
 
PuterTutor said:
Dude.....

Of course now the question is why there isn't life there now? Did we come from mars after nuking it to oblivion?

Sorry...but it's exciting and a good way to attack people who think that life evolved on earth only and exists nowhere else in the universe..idiots!

Actually...there's a theory that's close to that. Basically that our planet was 'seeded' with life and/or the basics of life when meteor impacts on Mars threw asteroids to the Earth. If so, we're effectivly Martians :)
 
See, I still have a problem with water being the source of life. It's simply the source of life as we know it ... that doesn't mean that without water they can't find some freaky-arsed aliens ...
 
MrBishop said:
Sorry...but it's exciting and a good way to attack people who think that life evolved on earth only and exists nowhere else in the universe..idiots!

Actually...there's a theory that's close to that. Basically that our planet was 'seeded' with life and/or the basics of life when meteor impacts on Mars threw asteroids to the Earth. If so, we're effectivly Martians :)


Bish, are you crazy?! :eek5: If Asscroft reads that he'll have us ALL deported to Syria or something and revoke EVERYONE'S drivers licenses....:hmm:
 
It's exciting to know that the first thing we need to start terreforming the planet is there..water

and maybe there was life there, imgaine they find a fossil record, and life more evolved than single cell organisms is discovered..think of studying the evolution on another planet, see where we differ.

If we find one fossil there, of anything more advanced than bacteria the chances of other intellegent life existing elsewhere goes up astronomically, 2 planets harbouring life in one solar system.....


ok, I'm a geek
 
water itself is just an ingredient for the primordial soup that creates life..There is a vast convergence of occurences and ingredients that need to be added before we can test it for flavor.... Lets not get too excited...yet. ;)
 
paul_valaru said:
It's exciting to know that the first thing we need to start terreforming the planet is there..water

and maybe there was life there, imgaine they find a fossil record, and life more evolved than single cell organisms is discovered..think of studying the evolution on another planet, see where we differ.

If we find one fossil there, of anything more advanced than bacteria the chances of other intellegent life existing elsewhere goes up astronomically, 2 planets harbouring life in one solar system.....


ok, I'm a geek

you want geek...talk to me :)

In 2003, scientists discovered the oldest planet, completely changing the theory that planets were late-comers in the creation of the Universe. This planet was formed 7.6 Billion Years ago, while the Earth is only about 4.55 Billion years old.

Imagine... 2 Billion years more time to work on evolution :)
 
Bish, you do know that Earth was nearly destroyed once in it's history, doncha? That's where the moon came from.
 
Professur said:
Bish, you do know that Earth was nearly destroyed once in it's history, doncha? That's where the moon came from.

Actually that was only one occurence of several... this little planet has been beatin to hell and back and survived... I can account at least 3 times not necessarily the planets form but everything else that existed on this planet was nearly completely wiped out.. Take the pole reversal where for a few centuries the there was no magnetic field to protect us from the cosmic radiation, or the dinosaurs being wiped out by a large meteor, or what professur said above. All of these are examples of this planet as it is today being destroyed!
 
Professur said:
Bish, you do know that Earth was nearly destroyed once in it's history, doncha? That's where the moon came from.

Yeah...and your point is? My point is that life survives given enough chances... water on Mars means that the earth isn't the only lucky one out there with the chances for life to have evolved. Even after nearly being destroyed on several occasions, we've still made it...

The odds of finding life elsewhere have just gotten much MUCH better :)
 
MrBishop said:
Yeah...and your point is? My point is that life survives given enough chances... water on Mars means that the earth isn't the only lucky one out there with the chances for life to have evolved. Even after nearly being destroyed on several occasions, we've still made it...

The odds of finding life elsewhere have just gotten much MUCH better :)

My point is that another planet the size of mars came flying outta nowhere and slammed into earth. Where'd it come from, and what was it carrying. There's not really any guarantee that life ever did develop on any planet in our solar system. For all we know, the planet was a freaking penal colonial transport. and we're a bloody penal colony for some planet who actually has a clue.
 
Professur said:
My point is that another planet the size of mars came flying outta nowhere and slammed into earth. Where'd it come from, and what was it carrying. There's not really any guarantee that life ever did develop on any planet in our solar system. For all we know, the planet was a freaking penal colonial transport. and we're a bloody penal colony for some planet who actually has a clue.

There ya go folx...more proof that life exists elsewhere!! Shame that mystery planet probably went zooming off into the sun or became the meteor belt. :p
 
Rose said:
See, I still have a problem with water being the source of life. It's simply the source of life as we know it ... that doesn't mean that without water they can't find some freaky-arsed aliens ...

Good point Rose. Who says it has to be anything like us?
 
MrBishop said:
There ya go folx...more proof that life exists elsewhere!! Shame that mystery planet probably went zooming off into the sun or became the meteor belt. :p

Umm... It stayed here, Bish.
 
But that's the whole issue. They're not just looking for something. They're looking for life like us. Because if there's life like us, that means that Mars could one day support us.
 
Professur said:
But that's the whole issue. They're not just looking for something. They're looking for life like us. Because if there's life like us, that means that Mars could one day support us.

Yes, I understand that, but what about other life not like us? If it existed, would we even notice?
 
chcr said:
Umm... It stayed here, Bish.

Not if it was the size of Mars it didn't. Mars ain't that much smaller than Earth... that would've meant nearly doubling our size and seriously fucking up our orbit. A glancing blow, I can see...a direct impact of that size...nah. We're talking large enough to split our core, remove our atmosphere entirely, and send up (like a blue ball) flying into the sun.
 
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