Mexico: enchanted land of kidnapping, extortion, corruption and drugs

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AP IMPACT: With Mexico's army in the war on drug

By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ, Associated Press Writer Olga R. Rodriguez, Associated Press Writer – Sun Mar 29, 1:45 pm ET

REYNOSA, Mexico – Acting on a tip, 30 masked soldiers in combat gear bust down the door of a boarded-up house to find 55 terrified migrants, hostages of the Gulf drug cartel.

Amid screams and the smell of urine and sweat, they find a blood-spattered room and a nail-encrusted log used to beat the captives and extort money from their families: $3,000 each.

Five suspected kidnappers are hauled off in a military truck, including the alleged leader — the son of a local police officer.

The Associated Press spent five days on the front line of Mexico's drug war, embedded with the army's 8th Division in Tamaulipas state, one of many organized-crime hotspots now policed by 45,000 troops nationwide. Launched by President Felipe Calderon in December 2006, the army is Mexico's last and best hope to gain control over drug cartels and spiraling violence, which have killed more than 9,000 people since then.

But the AP's exclusive front-row seat reveals the army offensive to be at once successful and imperfect, marred by police corruption, lack of training and local distrust. As Calderon has said, it's a temporary fix. There's still not a long-term solution.

Many Mexicans see the army as the only government entity able to face the heavily armed drug cartels, and soldiers rely on citizen complaints, such as the call that led them to the migrant hostages. They enter the house in a rough neighborhood without working with local police to get a search warrant, fearing officers could tip off the smugglers.

Army officials acknowledge they break rules to get results. Their fight is complicated by deep-rooted corruption among local and state police, who work as lookouts and sometimes hit men for the cartels.

"Here you can't call police," says army Capt. Huascar Santiago, "because they're in collusion."

The problem is also complicated by the constitution, which bars the army from doing police work such as the smuggling ring bust. Among other limits, soldiers legally can detain only people caught in the act of a crime as they check suspicious cars, rummage through trash cans and gather intelligence from neighbors.

Army Gen. Edgar Villegas, the division commander, says the military still maintains discipline in these situations.

"If we're going to act in this gray area, in the end what prevails is the honesty and transparency with which we do things," he says. "We're susceptible to committing errors, and when we do, we take responsibility for everything that comes with it."

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In the Reynosa raid, the soldiers free nine women held in the living room in their underwear and 46 men crammed into two small bedrooms — some for up to a month — with little food and water. The torture room has a mattress on the floor and blood and posters of half-naked women on the walls. A handgun sits on a corner table.

The soldiers handcuff the ring leader and cover his head. He is taken into the bathroom, made to kneel in a bathtub beside a bucket of water. The door is shut. The suspect emerges wet and willing to reveal the addresses of two other smuggling houses, though they yield nothing.

"You're heroes. God will reward you," reads a text message on Santiago's cell phone from the man who gave him the tip.

Drug traffickers once had free rein in Tamaulipas, which borders Texas and the Gulf Coast — the home base for the Gulf cartel. They raced around in convoys of bulletproof sport utility vehicles, setting up roadblocks to protect turf and forcing Mexican customs agents at gun point to wave through cars coming from the U.S. without inspection. Men openly displayed their weapons as they drank in bars or had their ostrich-skinned boots shined in the town plaza.

That was before Calderon took office and sent the army — mostly twentysomethings from rural provinces — to wrest control of areas taken over by cartels.

The 8th Division — 2,400 troops plus 1,500 reinforcements — was deployed in late 2007 after a former border town mayor who denounced cartel meddling in local elections was shot dead outside a restaurant.

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Maj. Andres Murias leads his column of 30 soldiers in the border town of Miguel Aleman past a house where he previously saw surveillance cameras and decides to make a stop. His soldiers find ski masks and ammunition inside a stolen truck in the yard, and freshly abandoned fried chicken and tortillas in the kitchen.

As his troops continue through the streets, Murias' driver points out a local squad car that keeps turning up nearby.

"We have been followed by the police every single moment," Murias says. "They have people everywhere reporting on our every move, and that makes it hard to surprise them."

But that doesn't keep them from trying. At dusk, Murias' unit shows up at a cattle ranch near the Rio Grande that he hears is a hideout for gunmen. Days earlier he flew over the ranch, taking pictures.

The military convoy breaks a chain to open the gate, shoos cows from its path and circles the property on bumpy dirt road lined by mesquite trees.

But the only find is a fuming Juan Gilberto Garza, the owner, demanding to know what intelligence the army used to illegally enter his land.

"You can come into the ranch whenever you want, but not like that," Garza says, shaking the broken chain at Murias. "I wanted to talk to you, to ask you to please close the gates. But no one would talk to me and left me standing there like an idiot."

Murias tells him a citizen complained of armed men on the property.

"I had to go in and check," he says.

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Mexico's National Human Rights Commission recently reported that complaints against soldiers — including illegal searches and heavy-handed treatment of detainees — jumped to 1,230 in 2008 from 182 in 2006, before the troops were dispatched.

Calderon defends them. In most areas where large military forces have been deployed, drug-related violence has dropped. That includes Mexico's deadliest city, Ciudad Juarez, where the federal government says drug-related killings are down 70 percent since 11,000 soldiers and federal agents arrived in February.

Murias' unit alone confiscated 52 tons of marijuana in 2008, compared to 2 tons in 2006. Last November, the 8th Division made the largest drug weapons seizure in Mexican history — 540 assault rifles, 165 grenades and 500,000 rounds of ammunition.

But signs are everywhere in Tamaulipas that cartel leaders are ready to return to business as usual as soon as the soldiers leave.

Illegal antennas adorn rooftops and empty lots — 5,000 in Nuevo Laredo alone — allowing a wide network of cartel spies to communicate by walkie-talkie. In some towns, residents tolerate and even protect the traffickers.

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In the town of Guardados de Abajo, another army unit is camping along the Rio Grande when soldiers hear a truck rumbling in the dark. They investigate to find more than 800 pounds (400 kilograms) of marijuana abandoned on the riverbank.

The next day, Murias discovers that the only way to get to the spot where the drugs were dumped is through a private driveway that passes a house and a goat pen.

He asks the resident if she heard anything suspicious the night before.

"I keep to myself," she says, nervously smoothing the sweater on her toddler. "And I go to bed early."
Mexico is not far from where I live in Texas. One of the things I would like to see is the legalization of marijuana. The people just over the border from us live in constant fear. In many places, the drug cartels own the town, including it's police. They can do whatever they want, to anyone, and there are no repercussions unless what they do is done to an opposition cartel.

Most of the drugs moved across the border is marijuana.

If marijuana was made legal, regulated and taxed... I believe a lot of the violence across our borders would dissipate.
 
A very large amount of the methamphetamine consumed in the US was manufactured in Mexico. Kilo for kilo, it's much more potent and deadly than marijuana by a longshot. Mexican heroin also is a pretty big export, and we all know it's a bit more serious than pot too. If you stop the marijuana, these other two, far worse drugs will be all that much more lucrative. They will make a market for it if a sufficient one does not already exist. As long as there is money to be made on this, it will always be an issue.
 
the numbers I saw was somthing like

MJ

coke
meth

then H.

and H. was a fairly low percentage.
 
legalizing pot would take out a big chunk of the bullshit.

coke and meth... hmmm... often a somewhat different user base...
 
Legalizing pot won't stop the smuggling of pot from Mexico to the USA. There'll be legal taxed pot coming in and then there'll be the black-market pot..untaxed and cheaper. Similar to the "Indian cigarettes" over here. It's legal to buy smokes from your local convenience store..providing you're 18 and are willing to pay $6-9/pack. Drive down to the reservation, and it's $15-20 for a carton and they don't check ID cards.

:shrug: At best, you'll lower the amount of imported drugs. At worst, the cigarette companies will take over the new market and American farmers will start growing the stuff.

Look for your pack of Rothman's Fly Kingsized in a store near you.
 
Sources...
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/state_factsheets/texas.html
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/state_factsheets/newmexico.html
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/state_factsheets/california2007.html
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/state_factsheets/arizona.html

California... (2007 & 2008 not found)
2006 Federal Drug Seizures
Cocaine: 8,071.9 kgs.
Heroin: 331.4 kgs.
Methamphetamine: 2,067.3 kgs./5,014 du
Marijuana: 161,358.1 kgs./15,119 du
Hashish: 1.5 kgs
MDMA: 12.0 kgs/221,976 du
Meth Lab Incidents: 353 (DEA, state, and local)

Texas...
2008 Federal Drug Seizures
Cocaine: 9,487.6 kgs.
Heroin: 141.6kgs.
Methamphetamine: 783.6 kgs.
Marijuana: 570,793.1 kgs.
Hashish: 0.5 kgs.
MDMA: 0.0 kgs./69,341 du
Meth Lab Incidents: 112 (DEA, state, and local)

Arizona...
2008 Federal Drug Seizures
Cocaine: 1,905.8 kgs.
Heroin: 152.8 kgs.
Methamphetamine: 263.4 kgs
Marijuana: 351,992.4 kgs.
Hashish: 6.4 kgs
MDMA: 0.0 kgs/47 du
Meth Lab Incidents: 10 (DEA, state, and local)

New Mexico...
2008 Federal Drug Seizures
Cocaine: 602.7 kgs.
Heroin: 32.1 kgs.
Methamphetamine: 35.0 kgs.
Marijuana: 34,080.0 kgs.
Hashish: 0.5 kgs.
MDMA: 0.0 kgs./2,068 du
Meth Lab Incidents: 61 (DEA, state, and local)
 
Legalizing and regulating pot may not stop the illegal flow from Mexico, but it will put a huge dent in the traffic.

Back when liquor was banned ("Prohibition") it was expensive to buy real liquor. It became fashionable to go to the "Speak Easy". This became a very profitable period in our history for organized crime. It was also a very violent period of time as well.

I think that if we legalize marijuana it will stop most of the violence that is happening across our border. I think it will also end some of the mystique and cool-ness for teens that is associated with doing something illegal and something that your parents would never approve of.
 
well with the dollar tax hike on tobacco smokes, the price of mj will look moderate at this point.

Looking more like our gov. is just another gang.
 
Prohibition made a lot of money for some Canadian families...and not the mafia-types. It was illegal to buy booze down south, but it wasn't illegal to make booze up here. :D Many families made a MINT on it during prohibition and continue to do so once prohibition got lifted and they already owned the marketshare.

I don't think that it'll stop most of the violence in Mexico - that's an out of control train wreck waiting to happen. The GVT let the criminals get the upper had financially and the cartels used that cash to 'weapon up' and buy people. It'd take a cash influx of good size to arm the Mexican police and military up to par...and that's not happening.
 
Legalizing pot won't stop the smuggling of pot from Mexico to the USA. There'll be legal taxed pot coming in and then there'll be the black-market pot..untaxed and cheaper. Similar to the "Indian cigarettes" over here. It's legal to buy smokes from your local convenience store..providing you're 18 and are willing to pay $6-9/pack. Drive down to the reservation, and it's $15-20 for a carton and they don't check ID cards.

:shrug: At best, you'll lower the amount of imported drugs. At worst, the cigarette companies will take over the new market and American farmers will start growing the stuff.

Look for your pack of Rothman's Fly Kingsized in a store near you.

yes, but the stakes will be much lower and thus the social ills will be much more contained.

how many people actually go to the trouble of buying their cigarettes on the reservation?

regardless, has there been a lot of cigarette-related violence on reservations lately?

right.
 
yes, but the stakes will be much lower and thus the social ills will be much more contained.

how many people actually go to the trouble of buying their cigarettes on the reservation?

regardless, has there been a lot of cigarette-related violence on reservations lately?

right.
If you'd ever been on a reservation around here lately..you'd not ask that question. Every damn road has 'smoke shacks' all over it.

Cigs and gambling is all the rage on reservations.

Violence? There's too much business for people there to take umbrage with each other. Major gangs sell mostly crack, pot, exstacy (and other party drugs), and skin (the younger the better).
 
yeah i drive by that shit all the time. and, right, there ain't no cigarette violence.
...and yet it's still illegal for most of the people actually buying the stuff to do so. It's overlooked by the cops.

I'm all for legallizing pot. :shrug: it'll give you tax dollars, free up people from jail and give your cops time to work on the tougher more dangerous drugs...not to mention the use of hemp in other products (paper, rope, bags etc..)

I just don't think that it'll be enough to calm down Mexico's problem.
 
Prohibition made a lot of money for some Canadian families...and not the mafia-types. It was illegal to buy booze down south, but it wasn't illegal to make booze up here. :D Many families made a MINT on it during prohibition and continue to do so once prohibition got lifted and they already owned the marketshare.
This might have been so for the states bordering Canada but not the rest of the nation. Organized crime had a hold on many communities and this was one of the most (non-war) violent times in US history.

In Canada, they have the Reservations that allow you to buy cigs at a discount, no tax. That's not the way it is here in Texas (or other parts of the US).

Watching this violence just across the border, hearing about it on the radio, reading about it in print and the internet, (not to mention those that watch it on TV), it's horrible.
I don't think that it'll stop most of the violence in Mexico - that's an out of control train wreck waiting to happen. The GVT let the criminals get the upper had financially and the cartels used that cash to 'weapon up' and buy people. It'd take a cash influx of good size to arm the Mexican police and military up to par...and that's not happening.
We could always let Canada step up and dump money on Mexico. You know what will happen? The money will end up in corrupt government officials' pockets, that's what will happen. Corruption is almost an expectation in business and government in Mexico. That's sad.:crying7:
 
Why not. You guys are already making a mint selling guns to the cartels...with the money they just got from you selling their drugs.

You can stiffen up the border...but that's damn big and mighty leaky. Doesn't solve the problem over there..just a 'good fences make for good neighbours' idea. Ignores the problem.

You can stiffen up the gun laws - Clinton's trying that but the NRA has their panties bunched up so far up their collective asses that they have frills sticking out their nostrils. - Unlikely to stop outbound guns from going to Mexico anytime soon.

You can try and overthrow the current Mexican GVT, put in a puppet and crack down on cartels by proxy. Not likely to happen under Obama.

You can arm the GVT's army/police and let them do their own dirty work...saving you from cleaning up the mess that washes over on your shores.

There are only so many options...and all of them are pretty dirty.

Personally..I recommend Mexico calling a state of emergency, suspending habeus corpus, bombing the hell out of the cartels or giving the USA the right to cross-border bomb. Give it a month, poke their heads out of the bunkers and se what's left. Not pretty, but there ya go.
 
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