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Gonz

Gonz

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Parents: White Teacher Should Not Teach Black History
Group Of Parents Protest District's Decision

POSTED: 2:49 p.m. EDT July 27, 2003

OBERLIN, Ohio -- A group of parents said they will fight a possible decision to allow a white teacher to lead classes in black history at Oberlin High School.

NewsChannel5 reported that the parents said using a white teacher would send the wrong message to black students.


A scheduling conflict could cause the district to reassign the black teacher who has taught the course for seven years.

The parents have protested the move to the school board, but the district's superintendent has not commented on the case.
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So, it would be logical to assume, given the story, that blacks teachers can't teach pre-civil war American history? They also would be excluded from much of world history?

I need to find my copy of "seperation of the races:modern era" book & begin studying. Foolishly I thought we were equal.
 
So, it would be logical to assume, given the story, that blacks teachers can't teach pre-civil war American history? They also would be excluded from much of world history?

I need to find my copy of "seperation of the races:modern era" book & begin studying. Foolishly I thought we were equal.
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Knee jerk reactions like this do more to set back the civil rights movement than any bigot living or dead possibly could. Oops, I didn't mean your reaction, Gonz.
Which proves that black people is more racist than white ones.
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I don't think that's true, Luis. There certainly are black racists, but I think the percentages are about the same as the whites (or hispanics for that matter). Do you know I know a black man who will seriously tell you that the darker a black persons skin is, the less intelligent they are?
 
chcr said:
I don't think that's true, Luis. There certainly are black racists, but I think the percentages are about the same as the whites (or hispanics for that matter). Do you know I know a black
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I tend to agree mostly with Luis's statement. It's a generalization, but the black people I know have always contributed to this belief.
 
I find blacks alot more racist, and tend to read into stuff more, seeing 'racism' where theres none. Though i would not for a minute deny that racism is still alive and well.
 
Yeah, maybe i went to far with my generalization, but from my experience i deduce that the "once oppressed people" becomes very racist towards the opressors once they are no longer in that situation. It could take decades for them to realize that they are not doing any better than what was done to them.
 
It's been 10 decades since slavery was abolished & 4 since the Jim Crow laws were put to rest. I wish somebody would give me (us) a number to look forward to. I prefer character over melanin, there are so many great reasons to dislike vs one.

Justin summed up Luis' generalization quite well. If Jesse & the guilt ridden white media wouold STFU we could get on with living our lives without race as an issue.
 
Gonz said:
So, it would be logical to assume, given the story, that blacks teachers can't teach pre-civil war American history? They also would be excluded from much of world history?

I need to find my copy of "seperation of the races:modern era" book & begin studying. Foolishly I thought we were equal.
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correction: we are supposed to be but certain things keep us from that. i dont think anyone is more racist than another because of their skin but whats in their heart. most of the black,white,hispanic,asian,and bi-racial people i knew in my life werent racist but there was a few who were and sadly enough as justin said racism is still alive today
 
I can't remember now who said it, but I've used it as my racial philosophy for years (probably even before I heard it).

Why hate people for their skin color or religion when there are so many good reasons to hate people on an individual basis.
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:grinyes:
 
Justintime said:
I find blacks alot more racist, and tend to read into stuff more, seeing 'racism' where theres none. Though i would not for a minute deny that racism is still alive and well.
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There is a hell of alot of seriously racist white people around still. Don't kid yourself. I used to live about 50 miles from where the school in the article is and given a week I could give you several instances of white racism far worse than who taught your history class.

I've seen much worse in other areas of the country as well... Georgia comes to mind.

I'm not saying it doesn't go the other way as well, but I don't think it's accurate at all to generalize most whites as non-racist and blacks just imagining things.
 
I live and work in two completely different areas, racially. The town I live in is about 3,000 people, with a minority population somewhere around 50. That means there are about 12 black kids in a school that has around 1200 students, and there is 1 black teacher. Now, down there, racism isn't a problem. The blacks in our town are upstanding citizens, they respect the law, and they deserve respect. Now, I work in a town of about 35,000 people. The population here is about 40% minority, the majority of which are fine upstanding people, with a subsection that are not. The schools are about the same split as the town, with about 40% black in most of the schools, except for the one out far west of town which is maybe 5% black. That is also the area that is the wealthiest of town. Not trying to say anything but the facts here.

Now, are blacks racist? Sure, some of them are. Are the whites racist, you bet some of them are. The problem is that you don't remember all the black people you met at the supermarket, the local Walmart or anywhere else that they didn't give you trouble. You remember the black kids that harrassed your kid, you remember the black girl that leaned out the bus window and yelled "Whitey" when you were just walking down the street. To say that most blacks are racist is asinine, and only shows how little you have been paying attention.
 
You remember the black kids that harrassed your kid, you remember the black girl that leaned out the bus window and yelled "Whitey" when you were just walking down the street. To say that most blacks are racist is asinine, and only shows how little you have been paying attention.
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Thanks for putting that so much more succinctly than I did. :D
 
flavio said:
Yeah right, the vast numbers of openly racist white people have nothing to do with it though.
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No more a percentage of the general population than openly racists blacks, hispanics, asians, etc. Keep re-opening a wound & sooner or later it gets infected. Let it heal & there may be a reminder but it's going to be okay.
 
Gonz said:
No more a percentage of the general population than openly racists blacks, hispanics, asians, etc. Keep re-opening a wound & sooner or later it gets infected. Let it heal & there may be a reminder but it's going to be okay.
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I don't know where you're getting your percentages from but at least I think you're admitting now that there are very many racist whites. Although you don't think they deserve any of the blame somehow.....'cause it's all Jesse and the guilt-ridden media.

So who's re-opening the wound? just Jesse and the media right? You're not going to give any credit to the vast numbers of racist whites who still control the country for the most part?

Nothing to do with the disproportionate odds of being pulled over by police depending on your skin color? or the disproportionate number of black Americans represented in the US criminal justice system?

A 1990 report released by the federal government’s General Accounting Office found a "pattern of evidence indicating racial disparities in the charging, sentencing and imposing the death penalty." The Stanford Law Review published a study that found patterns of racial disparity, based on the race of the victim, in Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma and Virginia. For example, in Arkansas findings showed that defendants in a case involving a white victim are three-and-a-half times more likely to be sentenced to death; in Illinois, four times, in North Carolina, 4.4 times and in Mississippi a defendant is five times more likely to be sentenced to death than defendants convicted of murdering blacks. An example closer to home can be found in the Ocmulgee Judicial Circuit, which encompasses eight counties in central Georgia. Between 1974 and 1991, the district attorney in that circuit sought the death penalty in 28 cases. The defendants were black in 22 of the cases.
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White people still make up somwhere around 67% of the population and blacks around 13% , if you're right and both groups have the same percentage of openly racist folks then there's still a hell of a lot more white bigots running around than black bigots.

You do have a couple points and I'll agree that over-compensation like in the original article doesn't help anything....but it's pretty ridiculous to act like white racism is no longer part of the problem.
 
White people still make up somwhere around 67% of the population and blacks around 13%
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I think this is a point everybody tends to gloss over. Of course whites are dominant in society, we're the largest group. BTW, flav, you do know that hispanics are the largest minority group now, don't you? In any case, none of this excuses racism on any side. Jesse Jackson is a racist. He seems to think that having known Martin Luther King gives him some divine right to meddle in anything that he construes as having anything remotely to do with race. Civil rights still has a ways to go in this country (and others) but Jesse Jackson needs to realize that at this point he's hurting rather than helping the cause.
 
Stares wide eyed...what did you do with the other chcr? :D

flavio, yes there are a bunch of racist white guys. So what. They are not in charge of squat. There will always be bigots. Ignore them & they seem less stupid.

Nothing to do with the disproportionate odds of being pulled over by police depending on your skin color?
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How about the disproportionate number of black criminals? I don't condone "driving while black", I certainly see the reasoning.
 
Gonz said:
Stares wide eyed...what did you do with the other chcr? :D

flavio, yes there are a bunch of racist white guys. So what. They are not in charge of squat. There will always be bigots. Ignore them & they seem less stupid.
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What makes you say that? They are in charge of many many things.


How about the disproportionate number of black criminals? I don't condone "driving while black", I certainly see the reasoning.
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Are there more black criminals or are they going after blacks more aggressively?

Did you say you don't approve of black people driving?
 
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