I'm pretty mainstream, middle of the road. I don't like the Far Right Christians high jacking our legal system and pushing their Christian conservative agenda and trying to regulate my personal life (as well as pushing their agenda in public schools) any more than I like the Far Left pushing their agenda. There are far more of people like me than people realize because we keep to ourselves and don't push our personal beliefs on others. We're quiet, so the politicians think we don't exist. But we're out there, and we vote.It sounds like we're on the same page here mostly.
I wasn't suggesting he was mentally ill because he held the beliefs of that group,
or that that group is in any way bad etc...
I do think it's been hijacked somewhat like other groups that started out good, then got a little too radical because of some.
No, this guy had other problems, if you can find more info on him.
I won't provide links here, but they are out there atm.
It does my conscience good to hear you stand for freedom in that way.
Ohio man, son killed after Ark. cops fatally shot
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Cerise
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Maybe the Kanes were just paranoid enough to think that they were facing the showdown they always knew was going to happen....that they carried guns for....... after they got T-boned in the parking lot and fired upon. 
Dash cams of the first stop vs. the shootout will tell the story.
Dash cams of the first stop vs. the shootout will tell the story.
Winky
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White man, son executed by Arkansas cops
Just another White Father and Son machine gunned to death
in a Walmart parking lot. Nothing to see here move along.
Righteous kill Dude.
Just another White Father and Son machine gunned to death
in a Walmart parking lot. Nothing to see here move along.
Righteous kill Dude.
spike
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Re: White man, son executed by Arkansas cops
What other father and son machine where shot in a Walmart parking lot? Did they kill a couple cops first too?
What other father and son machine where shot in a Walmart parking lot? Did they kill a couple cops first too?
catocom
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Re: White man, son executed by Arkansas cops
Let me see if I have this straight, on your position...
if not please clarify....
When if comes to the new AZ law, you think police are bigots,
but if they kill white people that belong to a certain group, you want
to give them the benefit of a doubt.
Do I have that right?
Let me see if I have this straight, on your position...
if not please clarify....
When if comes to the new AZ law, you think police are bigots,
but if they kill white people that belong to a certain group, you want
to give them the benefit of a doubt.
Do I have that right?
spike
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Re: White man, son executed by Arkansas cops
I have no idea where you got that. I never called the AZ police bigots.
No, I don't give them the benefit of the doubt killing any color people of any group. If anyone pulls weapons after killing two police officers their going to get shot at.
I do object to those. Doesn't excuse killing police.
I have no idea where you got that. I never called the AZ police bigots.
No, I don't give them the benefit of the doubt killing any color people of any group. If anyone pulls weapons after killing two police officers their going to get shot at.
Cerise said:
I do object to those. Doesn't excuse killing police.
If you had ever listened to a couple of these folks talk you'd understand why the Sheriff of their hometown had a warning about them. Paranoia does not even begin to describe. I'm telling you.
I didn't know they buried the story (but then I don't watch TV or frequent Fox News online either). How do you mean it was "buried"? Curious.
I found this... but it's after the incident...
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1096657.ece
All I've found regarding the actual incident that led to their death was that there was an "exchange of gunfire" and a "shoot out". I suppose we'll have to wait until more information is released.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1096657.ece
All I've found regarding the actual incident that led to their death was that there was an "exchange of gunfire" and a "shoot out". I suppose we'll have to wait until more information is released.
catocom
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Re: White man, son executed by Arkansas cops
You do think they'll pickup, and or harass hispanics though...is that right?
I guess you didn't actually use the B word.
You do think they'll pickup, and or harass hispanics though...is that right?
so, you know for sure that these are the guys that killed those other 2 officers?
catocom
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it was on the main page, and now there's nothing, not even on the secondary
sectionals.
Lots of different groups 'say' some wild things, even unions, and university professors.
That doesn't mean all those people should be killed.
catocom
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I'll be surprised if you hear another word about it.
I agree! Freedom of Speech and all that.
Hell, the KKK is even allowed to say whatever fucked up shit they want to say too. Same with Neo-Nazis. This is America and I wouldn't want it any other way. /waves flag of the good ole USA
Maybe Fox is waiting for the police investigation to be complete. There should be a release by now, though. Not sure. If the police vehicles, including the one that stopped the van on the interstate, had their video running they're probably going through each one and documenting.
Granted, I do not doubt that this guy was a 1st class nut job. However, I would not point fingers in any direction until all evidence is known.
catocom
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that's where I'm at.
Like I say, there's just something freaky-not-right here.
It doesn't happen very often, but this isn't the first time I've seen a story buried by then, or others.
I'm betting there may be mor video out there, and of coarse I think the investigation is still on-going.
We'll see....maybe.
Like I say, there's just something freaky-not-right here.
It doesn't happen very often, but this isn't the first time I've seen a story buried by then, or others.
I'm betting there may be mor video out there, and of coarse I think the investigation is still on-going.
We'll see....maybe.
spike
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Re: White man, son executed by Arkansas cops
They can detain anyone (hispanic or not) until they prove their legal status even when no offense has been committed. A pretty serious attack on freedom.
"The man and his teenage son are suspected of fatally shooting two Arkansas police officers during a traffic stop before they died in a shootout.
Jerry Kane Jr., 45, of Forest, Ohio, and his son Joseph Kane, believed to be 16, were killed during an exchange of gunfire with officers in a Walmart parking lot, Arkansas State Police said Friday.
The shootings came about 90 minutes after West Memphis police Sgt. Brandon Paudert, 39, and Officer Bill Evans, 38, were attacked with AK-47 assault rifles after they stopped a minivan on Interstate 40 in West Memphis on Thursday, authorities said."
They can detain anyone (hispanic or not) until they prove their legal status even when no offense has been committed. A pretty serious attack on freedom.
"The man and his teenage son are suspected of fatally shooting two Arkansas police officers during a traffic stop before they died in a shootout.
Jerry Kane Jr., 45, of Forest, Ohio, and his son Joseph Kane, believed to be 16, were killed during an exchange of gunfire with officers in a Walmart parking lot, Arkansas State Police said Friday.
The shootings came about 90 minutes after West Memphis police Sgt. Brandon Paudert, 39, and Officer Bill Evans, 38, were attacked with AK-47 assault rifles after they stopped a minivan on Interstate 40 in West Memphis on Thursday, authorities said."
catocom
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Re: White man, son executed by Arkansas cops
wrong
It specifically says ONLY if they have committed another offense.
(paraphrased)
You Still haven't read it?
wrong
It specifically says ONLY if they have committed another offense.
(paraphrased)
You Still haven't read it?
spike
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Re: White man, son executed by Arkansas cops
It absolutely does not say they have to have committed an offense. You are definitely wrong and obviously haven't read it.
It absolutely does not say they have to have committed an offense. You are definitely wrong and obviously haven't read it.