Over-reacting is over-reacting...

Gato_Solo

Gato_Solo

Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Whether you're for, or against, gun control. Looks like the media has, once more, put an extremely negative spin on gun ownership...

We are afraid. You can see the evidence everywhere, from the shootings at Columbine High School to the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center.

We are no longer a nation governed by laws and state representatives. We are a nation governed by fear. And it's starting to take over.

Every time there is a tragedy in this country, we overreact. After the shootings at Columbine in Colorado and Buell Elementary in Michigan, schools across the country responded by suspending and expelling any student who even hinted at trouble. Suddenly teen angst was illegal, and anybody who didn't have the correct proportion of happy days was suspect.

Worry and fear have defined the past two years, with Americans constantly on guard. Ever since Sept. 11, government officials have sent vague warnings about terrorists who might attack at any moment by any means. And now, all of America has become Chicken Little, waiting for the sky to fall and turning a wary eye at our neighbors, friends and family.

Now Ohio wants to pass a conceal and carry law. It's legal, they say. It's their God-given, constitutionally sanctioned right to carry concealed handguns.
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If nine of the bill of rights are based on the individual, then all of the bill of rights are for the individual...especially the second. You can't have it both ways. ;)

Source...
 
flavio said:
Or more specifically, someone at foxnews doesn't like concealed weapons.
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Let's not quibble, flavio. Every time there's a shooting, the media goes into a frenzy about how if guns were not readily available, then the shooting wouldn't have happened, and then go on to cite statistics about gun violence and how much it has grown over the past X number of years. What they fail to mention is that the population, and the sheer number of guns has also grown. Top that off with the simple fact that only 1/10th of 1% of legally owned guns are ever even used in a crime, and you start to see the bigger, and more factually representative, picture. Fact is that law-abiding citizens aren't going to become gun-toting, rabid, and murderous if they come in contact with a fire arm. They are going to act responsibly, and legally. Criminals are, by definition, going to do something criminal. :shrug: You draw the obvious conclusions, but if 99.9% of guns used in crimes are purchased illegally, or stolen, then how is adding legislation on the already legal owner going to help the situation?

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The state of Ohio, as with most states, has had concealed-carry laws for years. Why is this important all-of-a-sudden? I detect some hype and BS, can you?
 
flavio said:
Why do they want to pass a conceal and carry law if they already have one?
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Because it may not be legal in all municipalities, and is limited only to certain people. This 'new' law would extend to every area of Ohio, with no municipal interferance.
 
Gato_Solo said:
the media has, once more, put an extremely negative spin on gun ownership...
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Well, not to quibble, but "the media" hasbn't really put a negative spin on "gun ownership" so much as "Joe Shaw" has put a negative spin on "Ohio's proposed concealed weapons law".

It seems like you're over-reacting and that Joe Shaw isn't even a Fox employee.

Joe Shaw is a junior at the University of Cinncinati and is a staff reporter for The News Record, the campus newspaper
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And Joe Shaw is, for all intents and purposes, a member of the media. And seeing this as a media story from a college paper that an international news sourse has picked up, I see it as a reaction to the over-reaction of the spin this story is trying to make. ;) This campus journalist will be the first to complain if they take away his first amendment right to a free press, but he's also hypocritical. He's got nationwide, nay, worldwide coverage, and this is the best he can come up with? Another angle on the 'Guns are bad' bandwagon?

BTW...The second amendment is not there for foreign invasion...it's for any invasion. Think about it. ;)
 
:retard: OK...Let me get this straight. We're heading to war with a soveriegn nation because they want to conceal their military armament and we're doing this to protect our society, who are fighting for the right to own, carry, and conceal their personal weapons...Am I close?
 
The other thing is that it's not so much "anti-gun" as it is an editorial on fear-based laws. I don't know if he is making his case about this law being "fear-based" either. Although I would agree with him abou the Patriot Act.

But I don't see why he thinks this law wouldn't have passed without the current terrorist hysteria.
 
Anyone else read Mission Earth by Hubbard? It's a long read, but the insights into PR and media manipulation are facinating.
 
Personally, I'm pleased to know that someone, somewhere is planning out what I'm about to think. It saves an awful lot of wear & tear on the vanishing synapse
 
Set of ten. It just gets better as you go along. The hardest part of reading it were the torture scenes. But it blows my mind how, in the last book of the set, he refers back to stuff from all the previous books in detail. Most authors tend to loose the earlier books as they go along. Not Hubbard. It's like he wrote the whole thing in one sitting.
 
You really need to go back and read the whole thing. The layers and layers he put into that book ... astounding.
 
Squiggy said:
:retard: OK...Let me get this straight. We're heading to war with a soveriegn nation because they want to conceal their military armament and we're doing this to protect our society, who are fighting for the right to own, carry, and conceal their personal weapons...Am I close?
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If you could carry a weapon under your overcoat capable of killing thousands or millions in a single shot, then I'd have a problem with that too.
 
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