Pissed off, whiney-ass muslims
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Cerise
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spike said:
No, what's really sad is that you have no grasp of the reality that you should be thanking this man for his service to and defense of our country.
spike said:
Hmmmmmmm. What's that you say? And it's even from your favorite terrorist-media outlet:
He should know, shouldn't he? He should know whether or not he needs US forces to maintain a presence in his country?
Now before you say "He's the president of Iraq, of course he will say that he wants the US to stay," realize that he has made that statement based on the fact that he has considered the nature of the threat from the enemy (Iran), their ability and determination to carry out their intentions instead of on "polling data."
spike
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You seem unable to grasp the idea it has nothing to do with whether he is correct or not don't you?
My favorite media outlet? Can you show one thing I've quoted from there?
The subject was what the Iraqi people want not what the puppet wants.
Deja vu.
Cerise
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I was observing that you have no respect for our Military.
You love aljazeera and you know it. You support the terrorists, don't you? If you're not with us you're against us, and alJ certainly is.
If they were aware of the threat imposed by Iran, they would not want us out so soon.
spike
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You love aljazeera and you know it. You support the terrorists, don't you? If you're not with us you're against us, and alJ certainly is.
If they were aware of the threat imposed by Iran, they would not want us out so soon.[/QUOTE]
I have respect for the military. I'm doing a project for the Navy next month. I have no feelings about aljazeera and you seem to be grasping for that one.
I daresay Iraqis probably know a lot more about Iran than you do.
Cerise
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Saying we want us out, that the loss of life is too great and we we should cut and run from Iraq undermines our troops, and weakens our resolve to win. Meanwhile alJiz gives press to AQ who says that we Americans do not have the heart for the battle: they use your words and meanings; your negativity emboldens our enemies. Maybe alJiz has some kind of polling data you can use.
You are doing some kind of project for the Navy next month? The Navy asked you to do some kind of project for them? In what capacity?
The question should be, do Iraqi citizens know more about Iran's motives than their president? You know, the one who said this:
I hear they want us to stay for awhile, even open an airbase or two.
spike
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When the most of the troops themselves, the Iraqis, and the American people want us out and our own intelligence agencies report that the Iraq war has increased terrorism and made us less safe then forcing them to stay is undermining the will of all three groups and our nations security.
The people being fought in Iraq for the most part are locals who want us out. Not really enemies or a threat to the US.
But you can use republican catch phrases and ignore reality if you want. Good thing most Americans don't agree with you.
You may want to read the rest of it. That is not what it said.
Cerise
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You are doing some kind of project for the Navy next month? The Navy asked you to do some kind of project for them? In what capacity?
BeardofPants
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You ever think maybe the project is classified?
I work for the navy and I know I'm certainly not at liberty to discuss the work I do.
I work for the navy and I know I'm certainly not at liberty to discuss the work I do.
chcr
Too cute for words
I'm lost. What you say there supports Spike's assertion that we're fighting local Iraqis, it doesn't contradict it.
The Iranians are using the local Iraqi militias to bloody our noses and make us look bad at little or no risk to themselves. Pretty good tactic, too bad we're letting them do it. I'll say it again: We need to go in there with enough force to stand on the various Iraqi factions' throats until they capitulate or we need to get the fuck out. Neither tactic wins us any points on the world stage, but neither does the current tactic and it clearly isn't working.
The simple fact is that regardless of who wins the next presidential election, sooner or later we will pull our troops out of Iraq leaving nothing resolved. Anyone can look at the current situation and draw this conclusion, it's obvious. The question is how many American lives the government (both the current administration and the next, whoever it is) will throw away before someone has the guts to make the hard decision.
Cerise
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Yes, I understand you had to pass a security clearance as a civilian employee working for the RNZN--congrats on the job, by the way
But somehow I think Spikey's comment had a typo--he meant "a project on the Navy"--for some high school class.
But I hope he feels free to expound.
chcr said:
We are fighting local Iraqis bankrolled by their Iranian sugar daddy.
They're residents of Iraq but they're Iran's pawns.
http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...Q-USA-IRAN.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-5
chcr
Too cute for words
I'll bet they think otherwise. I'm sure they're happy to get the aid, but I'm also sure that when the Iranians' (or their go betweens') instructions start running counter to what the insurgents want to do, it'll be a whole different story. It's happened to us on a hundred occasions, including some petty, third world dictator named Hussein and a foreign freedom fighter in Afghanistan named bin Laden. The real problem with history is that nobody ever learns from it.
I still don't understand why you were arguing with spike over something you substantially agreed about?????
Cerise
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spike said:
If Iran was out of the picture we would be out of Iraq sooner.
That Iran sponsors Iraqi militia makes it double the trouble.
