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Nixy

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So, I bought a pizza stone today. I am excited to get back to my place and try it out :) Any advice from the pizza pros out there *cough* Unc and Tonks *cough* ?
 
If you aren't into making your own crust then I recommend Boboli...if you are then ask Rob because that's his area.
As far as sauces and toppings go just don't be afraid to fiddle around. I like to use a blend of cheeses instead of plain old mozzarella. Somebody makes a shredded blend called casserole cheese and that works great.
 
Whatever sauce you get, don't be afraid to add seasoning to it if you so desire. That's what we did at the pizza joint I worked at.
 
Play around with your sauce too. We've made pesto sauces, garlic and olive oil sauces, and my favorite which was a garlic, olive oil, jalepeno paste and onion sauce. Pizza is fun! :D
 
Is madame planning on making her own dough base or whipping up premades?

Either way, get the stone in the oven for 5-10 minutes before you slap on the pie so the crust will crisp up instead of becoming humidified goo.
 
My pizza stone never leaves the oven (we don't use the oven bottom much for other stuff... tend to cook on the stove top). Pre-heat the oven with the stone on there - I usually give it a good 20 minutes or so before I stick pizza on there. Good time to make the pizza sauce.
 
unclehobart said:
Is madame planning on making her own dough base or whipping up premades?

Either way, get the stone in the oven for 5-10 minutes before you slap on the pie so the crust will crisp up instead of becoming humidified goo.


Well, I'd like to TRY making my own dough. Last time I used a pre-made blob from the store...it tasted good...but I'd like to make a crust with maybe garlic and other spices and some herbs in there...
 
Okay, so you came to the right place for advice... :D

I've used a pizza stone for years. Here is what I would recommend:

1) Preheat oven, with stone inside, to at least 500 degrees (Fahrenheit) for 45 minutes to 1 hour before baking pizza, especially the first time.

2) Definitely make your own dough, preferably the day before. Pizza dough that's risen in your fridge overnight, and brought to room temperature before using, tends to have a bit more flavor than freshly made dough. I've been using the following recipe with good success for a while now. Adapt it as you see fit:
Title: Basic Pizza Dough

1 c Warm tap water (110 to 115-degrees)
1 pk Active dry yeast
3 To 3 1/2 cups flour
1/2 ts Salt

1. Pour the water into a medium-sized mixing bowl and sprinkle in the yeast. Stir gently with a fork until the yeast has dissolved and the liquid turns light beige in color.

2. Add 1 cup of the flour and the salt. Mix thoroughly with a wooden spoon. Add a second cup of flour to the bowl and mix well. After the second cup of flour has been mixed in, the dough should start coming away from the sides of the bowl and should begin to form a soft,sticky mass.

3. Measure out the third cup of flour. Sprinkle some over the work surface and flour your hands generously. Remove all of the dough from the bowl and begin to work the mass by kneading the additional flour in a bit at a time.

4. To knead the dough, use the heel of your hands to push the dough across the floured work surface in one sweep. Clench the dough in your fist and twist and fold it over. Use the dough scraper to help gather the wet dough that sticks to the work surface into a ball while kneading. Repeat this action over and over again, adding only as much flour as it takes to keep the dough from sticking to your hands. Work quickly and don't be delicate. Slap and push the dough around to develop its gluten and to facilitate its rolling out. (Kneading pizza dough is a great way to relieve pent-up aggression!)

5. When the dough no longer feels sticky, push the heel of your hand down into it and hold it there for 10 seconds. This will test its readiness; if your hand comes up clean, the dough is done. If it sticks, a bit more kneading will be necessary. Once the dough is no longer sticky, do not overwork it by adding more flour. Continue kneading only until the dough is smooth and elastic (it should spring back when pressed) and no lines of raw white flour show. The whole process should take 5 to 10 minutes.

6. Lightly oil a 2 quart bowl with vegetable oil. Roll the ball of dough around in the bowl to coat it with a thin film of oil. Tightly seal the bowl with plastic wrap to trap in the moisture and heat from the yeast's carbon dioxide gases. This will help the dough rise faster.

7. Place the bowl in a warm, draft-free place. Let the dough rise for 30 to 45 minutes.

8. Once the dough has doubled in bulk, punch it down by pushing your fist into it. All of the gases will quickly escape, and the dough will collapse. Remove the dough from the bowl and knead it again for about 1 minute.

9. The dough is now ready to be patted and rolled into pizza, or to undergo additional rising.

10. To raise dough a second time, add a bit more oil to the bowl and repeat the procedure indicated for the first rising. Then the dough is ready to be shaped.

Source: The Pizza Book by Evelyne Slomon posted by Linda Davis
3) If you're making a traditional pizza (margherita), make sure your sauce is zesty, but not too zesty, and still sweet. For example, use good (San Marzano) tomatoes, fresh sauteed garlic, red pepper flakes, salt, pepper, maybe a little oregano, and fresh basil. Also top the pizza with fresh basil leaves.

4) Try using slices of fresh mozzarella on top instead of Polly-O or some other prepackaged brand. I recently started doing this and found that, while the cheese isn't as gooey and stringy as normal, it's much tastier and has a nicer, sometimes crunchy texture when baked.

5) Top the whole damn thing with good grated parmegiano reggiano or locatelli romano cheese, and maybe drizzle it with a little extra virgin olive oil.

That dough recipe will make one thick pizza or two thin ones. If you make the latter (which I recommend), they shouldn't need to bake for more than 10 minutes or so.

Oh, and I hope you have a good pizza peel. Dust it with cornmeal (or cream of wheat, if you're allergic to the former) and assemble your pizza on top.

Good luck, and have fun! :cool:
 
You don't need a peel. I just use an oven baking tray, and I slide the assembled pizza from the oven baking tray to the pizza stone (I'm a heathen and use oven baking paper instead of flour so it doesn't stick to anything).
 
Oh, and the better quality the flour is, the nicer the dough will be. I've experimented with the normal flours, and found that they are definitely sub-par to the more expensive ones. I also use half-half - so half standard flour (I use an organic stoneground flour), and half strong flour (I use some expensive italian heavy flour - not sure what the brand is). The standard (plain) flour can be subbed for wholemeal flour if you want a healthier base. I don't use olive oil. And the important thing is to make sure the yeast proves in the water first before mixing it into the dry ingredients. You also need to kneed the dough until it is 'stretchy'.
 
~ahem~ If you use this stuff, you won't need to proof the yeast before adding it to the flour. ;)

Also, be careful about flour substitutions because different flours absorb different amounts of water. The dough recipe I gave you, for instance, calls for all-purpose flour (which is not specified, but the book, as I recall, does specify all-purpose). All-purpose has somewhat less protein content than bread flour, which means it requires less water. Of course, the ratio of flour to liquid isn't a hard and fast rule anyway as humidity varies from day to day, thereby affecting how much flour you will need to add. It's all about feel and instinctively knowing when enough is enough. Generally try to add as little flour as necessary, as too much will create a too-dense crust.

Are you ready to order a Domino's yet? :lloyd:
 
*lol*
Yes, it's really all about gettin' a feel for having the right textured dough. It should be slightly sticky, and stretchy. If you don't get the right consistency, you can always add more flour or water - although boo is right, if you add too much, it becomes hell dense, and it's a sumbitch to roll out.
The key to rolling out dough is to make sure everything is well floured so the damned stuff doesn't stick to the bench.
 
I have a feeling that you and I are more emotionally invested in Nixy's pizza than she is. :lol2:
 
Professur said:
But I'll wager it becomes more a part of her than either of you.

Are you telling me my pizza is going to go right to my hips?? Cause if you're not I got no clue what you're talking about...
 
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