Privacy? Long gone & forgotten

There, and the preceding years. Lynching Native Americans for their land, selling debtors into slavery in South America, suspending habeus corpus, supressing free press and speech. Lotta stuff.
 
Gonz said:
A country at war does things that would normally be considered outrageous & can get away with it, and they should be able to. This is typically done to an identifiable group...not the nation as a whole.

I assume that's where you're heading.
What if they never actually declare war but say they are fighting a vague term like "TERROR" which will never go away entirely?

In that case thw conflict would never end and things that "normally be considered outrageous" could be done at will to any citizen until the end of time by simply invoking the word "TERROR" whether it applies or not.

That would be a contemptible way of bypassing the Constitution and the checks and balances that the forefathers put in place right?
 
flavio said:
What if they never actually declare war but say they are fighting a vague term like "TERROR" which will never go away entirely?

Interestingly enough, that was the argument I used in another thread that you were arguing against...

flavio said:
In that case thw conflict would never end and things that "normally be considered outrageous" could be done at will to any citizen until the end of time by simply invoking the word "TERROR" whether it applies or not.

So how would you describe it?

flavio said:
That would be a contemptible way of bypassing the Constitution and the checks and balances that the forefathers put in place right?

Which Congress and the Judicial branch do all the time with noise from you only occurring when the decision affects one of your 'social' issues...

BTW...Private property is private property, whether the business is open to the general public, or not, IMO. Government has no business telling the business owner who he or she has to admit to their premises as long as their business is legal, and they are paying their taxes. This goes from the most ordinary to the most extreme. If the public has no tolerance for those business practices, then that business won't be around long.
 
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