Project Implicit

tank girl said:
ah! you really know you've reached notoriety when you're being quoted out-of context on another thread...

should I be rehearsing my Oscar speech or what.


I know it may be hard for y'all to try and ignore my celebrity appeal, but just please behave yourselves and address the topic of the thread or else get back to the bitchin thread where ya'll belong...now do y'hear?
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Now this post finally came off with a grain of sarcastic humor. At least it shows you in a less angry light.
 
tank girl said:
gawsh i didn't realise I had to reform to such a strict lesson in accuracy on a lil old bulletin board called "OFF TOPIC". Darlin' i thought you would have acknowledge that by now, being THAT anal about being "right" and "accurate" clearlly isn't my style. You'd probably notice by my spelling that my efforts are clearly more absorbed in more important ideas than trying to get everything flawless.

I enjoy being opinionated, dammit - and I didn't see anywhere in the rules that insisted that everyone be perfectly refined in argument and grammar in order to get "top marks". Obviously, here I don't place any importance on trying to impress anyone - no-one would listen to me here anyway due to the obvious dominance of right-wingers here - I place importance on expression, full stop. If I wanted to be concerned about being accurate I would do that in my studies, where I get genuine recognition for my ideas and intelligence and thats exactly what I do. Here, I am having fun, and I think having fun to an extent without restriction and being able to express myself the way I want to be is fine and thats how I feel that things should be. I'm not imposing anything on anyone and not directing anything personally offensive to anyone except for where you choose to interpret that to be so. And if I do step over the line its only due to your own provocation of me in the first place.

Its you that appears to need to impose a set some kind of precedent that I should live up to. however in no way do I profess to anyone that everything I say is right, I merely offer my point of view up for criticism, I believe in standing up for what you believe in. But I also realise that I'm not right, I'm not trying to prove something and try and convince anyone to follow my perspective....by any means, in fact - I'm a firm believer that the more you learn the less you know but what really gets me is that you think you have some sort of right to mock me, bash me, as if you're the elite authority on who is right or wrong, and you being the only "right" ones of course. If you genuinely believed in freedom and in a democratic shout then you should be genuinely willing to let me shout to my hearts content no matter how much you despise my viewpoint, my inaccuracies and contradictions - the point is, I at least have the passion to speak up and be vocal despite ridicule and its that passion that should be respected and not my errors. Thats the beauty of free speech, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.



If you criticise me thats fine - and I just love the conflict :p I thought that was quite obvious by now - but you persist to play my ball game, and frankly I'm not complaining because it gives me so much more incentive to express myself.

it just happens that I'm of a highly cynical, sarcastic and volatile nature - but trust me, theres a lot of good things about me too...

I should be thanking y'all for being so encouraging!

Just don't be so sensitive when i'm naturally critical of you in return too
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I'm just shocked that you finally adressed me directly after having been one of the few to try and poliety engage you up to this point. :) I was starting to feel unloved and ignored. :crying4: Now that I know you actually read what I say, I will not have to wave such a large red cape next time. :nerd:
 
Inkara1 said:
Amazing how you wrote all that and yet failed to answer my question with anything other than some sort of "natural genius" horseshit. I posed my question because you had just slammed whatever education Gonz might have had. It's only fair that we know what qualifies you to do so.
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She must be trying for a degree in politics, law, or selling cars. They are all masters in evasive speech.


TG, Don't feel singled out. Everyone here has been put under the spotlight at one point or another. I can't think of a single person here that I haven't fought with at one point or another.
 
unclehobart said:
She must be trying for a dgree in politics, law, or selling cars. They are all masters in evasive speech.
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:rofl4:

So, tankgirl, when are you going to answer Inkara1's question as to your degree? I'll admit right here that I don't have one. I have experienced a hell of a lot more than most people, and I have observed more than most people, but, let us be reasonable. If you're going to castigate someone over whether they were awarded a degree from an institution of 'higher learning', you should at least step up to the plate with your own educational awards.


Okay...here's the deal. I took the race test. It's no more than an attempt to track behavior, and make the person taking the test aware of hidden bias in an attempt to lessen tension on the college campus. I'm not sure if this test is mandatory, but I do know that it's not very effective in doing anything except "CYA" for Harvard in case they get sued.
 
tank grrl said:
being THAT anal about being "right" and "accurate" clearlly isn't my style.
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No kidding.

Unfortunately, when one isn't concerned about facts or precision, they end up being wrong.
 
It's more pop psychology internet based bullshit that translates basic raw data in a skewed, predictable pattern. Bunk science at its finest.*

*The above critique written by one with a Psychology degree, and 11 years of counselling experience working face to face with real people instead of avatars. Take it for what you feel it's worth.
 
SouthernN'Proud said:
It's more pop psychology internet based bullshit that translates basic raw data in a skewed, predictable pattern. Bunk science at its finest.*

*The above critique written by one with a Psychology degree, and 11 years of counselling experience working face to face with real people instead of avatars. Take it for what you feel it's worth.
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I don't think she'll answer this rebuttal because you've been in the system too long, and have become jaded to the position. :lol2: Experience means nothing to the younger folks...;)
 
Gato_Solo said:
you've been in the system too long, and have become jaded to the position.
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Tell me about it... :lol2:

I too started out a greenhorn, ready to save the world through enlightened counselling and applied therapy. That lasted about three weeks. Now I just try and hang on, and interject tidbits of useful insights when situations allow. Let's face it...ain't much Anger Management you can do with a convicted murderer on parole. I just try to make sure he don't get pissed off at me.

Ah, youth. It passes so quickly, like burrito gas after 2AM. :lloyd:
 
Gato_Solo said:
I don't think she'll answer this rebuttal because you've been in the system too long, and have become jaded to the position. :lol2: Experience means nothing to the younger folks...;)
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exactly :clap: ever heard of habitus?

So, tankgirl, when are you going to answer Inkara1's question as to your degree? I'll admit right here that I don't have one. I have experienced a hell of a lot more than most people, and I have observed more than most people, but, let us be reasonable. If you're going to castigate someone over whether they were awarded a degree from an institution of 'higher learning', you should at least step up to the plate with your own educational awards.
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My point was, that the article in question was created by "Psychologists at Harvard, the University of Virginia and the University of Washington" who quite obviously know a hell of alot more than you and I on the subject of implicit prejudice...

And for your information, I'm 2 years off a degree in Media Studies with an interest in gender and womens studies and philosophy; 3 years off finishing with honours. :D
 
tank girl said:
exactly :clap: ever heard of habitus?
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Ever heard of 'Free Will'. Just by contradicting the idea of free will that does not make habitus correct.

tankgirl said:
My point was, that the article in question was created by "Psychologists at Harvard, the University of Virginia and the University of Washington" who quite obviously know a hell of alot more than you and I on the subject of implicit prejudice...
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:rofl4: Spoken like somebody with absolutely no experience. Studying something, and being a victim of something are 2 totally different things. They have no more experience being the victims of prejudice than I have being a garden slug. Covert, and overt, I've seen it all. They rig a few lab experiments, and now their words are gospel. Here's a suggestion...have them dye their skin, and frizz their hair, and put them on the street for a few years. Then they can speak to what prejudice is. Until then, I'll thank you not to throw elitists out there as authorities on what us common folks go through every day.

tankgirl said:
And for your information, I'm 2 years off a degree in Media Studies with an interest in gender and womens studies and philosophy; 3 years off finishing with honours. :D
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Uh oh. You said the 'P' word...:rofl4: Gender and Women's studies, and philosophy. All fluff. Media studies is the same, to me at least, as Communications. I hope you're going to a good school, at least. :lol:
 
tank girl said:
And for your information, I'm 2 years off a degree in Media Studies with an interest in gender and womens studies and philosophy; 3 years off finishing with honours. :D
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That and 75 cents will get you a cup of coffee at McDonald's.


Women's Studies...how did I know? Got that resume in the mail to Oprah yet?
 
SouthernN'Proud said:
Women's Studies...how did I know? Got that resume in the mail to Oprah yet?
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Why couldn't she be studying medicine, biology, chemistry, physics, and stuff like that? How come she chose the most worthless major, and then victimizes us with it's incoherent ramblings about issues that they could've taken care of hundreds of years ago?
 
tank girl said:
My point was, that the article in question was created by "Psychologists at Harvard, the University of Virginia and the University of Washington" who quite obviously know a hell of alot more than you and I on the subject of implicit prejudice...
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See now, that's a statement we can work with. It leads insight to your confusion & disillusionment with reality.

These men & women at the named schools (as well as the tens of thousands of unnamed schools) with all thier degree's & honors & edumacashun know less about the workings of humanity than a retail clerk at the convenience store. They are even more artisan than md's who at least have observable physical conditions that are nealrly constant. The job of psychology professionals (in any & all forms) is to diagnose via the best guess method.

With obvious exeptions, mental disorders are not constant. While subject A & subject B may preposess certain similar qualities, the ultimate diagnosis may be worlds apart.

Should ten people take the same test ten times on ten different days there'd be ten different outcomes. Those outcomes may point to a (bias, in this case) but there is hardly a guarantee of probabale outcome. Day to day life has too large an affect on the typical human to allow unchaging or unwavering subconscious biases.

As for your schooling goals...good, interesting. Not a hell of a lot of work for a philosophizing gender neutralizing feminst tv watching professional is there?
 
Sally is the real man hater though. Oprah masks it well, but Sally showed it off clear and true.

Oprah's more widely shown I guess, we can go with that.
 
The basis for the whole thing is that having a bias is inherently bad.
I started taking the age bias test and couldn't finish because it was of such poor quality.
In other words it SUCKED, looks like it was created by a fifth grader!

I KNOW I'm biased, prejudiced and I discriminate

and so does everyone else!

*stumbles off muttering “GD liberals”...*
 
I thought it was funny...it told me I have a moderate bias (towards the one and only race I don't have fear of mind you) with regards to weaponry. I'm askeered of pretty much all other races (including mine) in specific situations with regards to danger/weaponry. Not hidden, not buried, I'm aware of it. With this one race, the only fear I have is being bible thumped to death. Never in all my life had a bad experience but for being 'loved' waaaaaaaay too much. Bibles are weapons?

I thought the test I took set one up to fail in it's layout myself. :shrug:
 
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