Saint Who?

as most on here have said it is a name. It means really nothing. Now if it is a faith based school then it is different. If it is not then why wouldnt one send their kids there unless it has or had a bad rep or is in a bad neighbourhood
 
freako104 said:
as most on here have said it is a name. It means really nothing. Now if it is a faith based school then it is different. If it is not then why wouldnt one send their kids there unless it has or had a bad rep or is in a bad neighbourhood
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Faith schools are intended for the children of those who are followers of that particular faith... therefore the Religious Education is geared around that religion, the values taught in the school are those of that religion... even down to the subject matter (Darwin vs Creationaism) is geared around that faith...

Those of different faiths to that of the school including humanists or atheists would not want their kids to be taught in that environment... an environment suggested by a particular name.
 
ClaireBear said:
Its not just a name though... its what the name stands for... being called ...
"Saint Elizabeth of Scratchy Bums Infant School" would alienate, perhaps for example, the Muslim community from enroling their children there whether it be a good school or not... whether it will be a "faith school" or not!

Incidentally... all "non-denominational state schools" in Blighty follow Church of England values in assembly and celebration.... but parents have the right to have their children opt out of "assembly" basically worship by another name!
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But you can also see my point...shit, and manure. If someone wishes to highlight one over the other in order to decide, then it is they, and not the product, which is in the wrong. If someone wishes to be alienated, then isn't the fact that the system is changed for them alienate them even more? If someone chooses to avoid something, then that is their choice. If you change yourself for someone else, who are you hurting? If they can't accept you for who you are, then, why are they there with you in the first place?
 
Gato_Solo said:
If they can't accept you for who you are, then, why are they there with you in the first place?
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Ahhhh! Now there's a point!

Faith schools maintain out dated and out moded intolerances and prejudices... a "them and us" menatality...

The Irish situation for example... do you think Protestant and Catholic nursery/kindergarten children would recognise each other in terms of faith and avoid playing with each other at playtime/recess? Not likely!!!!

But put them in two separate schools in different uniforms they are immediately recognisable to the other!
 
ClaireBear said:
Ahhhh! Now there's a point!

Faith schools maintain out dated and out moded intolerances and prejudices... a "them and us" menatality...

The Irish situation for example... do you think Protestant and Catholic nursery/kindergarten children would recognise each other in terms of faith and avoid playing with each other at playtime/recess? Not likely!!!!

But put them in two separate schools in different uniforms they are immediately recognisable to the other!
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But...as you so eloquently stated...yours is a multi-cultural society. If you wipe out that culture...even if it's destructive...doesn't that, in itself, make the entire idea of scrapping a name that may be offensive anti 'PC'?
 
Gato_Solo said:
But...as you so eloquently stated...yours is a multi-cultural society. If you wipe out that culture...even if it's destructive...doesn't that, in itself, make the entire idea of scrapping a name that may be offensive anti 'PC'?
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But a school is a public building...

Its tantermount to naming council offices "The Red Rose Rooms" ... a red rose being the Labour symbol... how would Tory voters feel?

Faith doesn't have to wiped out... it just needs to be personal and accepting of others ideas, faiths and lifestyles.
 
ClaireBear said:
But a school is a public building...

Its tantermount to naming council offices "The Red Rose Rooms" ... a red rose being the Labour symbol... how would Tory voters feel?

Faith doesn't have to wiped out... it just needs to be personal and accepting of others ideas, faiths and lifestyles.
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But that's exactly what the PC movement is doing. Instead of having a dominant culture, all cultures are forced to be bland and uninteresting. People are different. In order to have a PC culture, everybody would have to be the same...If that happens, then you no longer have a multi-cultural and multi-ethnic society. You're back to square one...;)
 
CB, I think my Irish Catholic mother and protestant father might disagree with you. I know I've never had any problems associating with my irish catholic cousins, uncles, aunts, their friends, ....

But then, you've probably never actually been to northern ireland. I have. And most catholics and protestants there are on good terms with one another. It's a small minority of assholes who keep it stirred up. Just like in Iraq right now. Or Quebec.

Just like one small minority asshole group whines about what a school is named, instead of wondering about how good the teachers will be.

(btw, you're still on my ignore list, so I won't be able to see any reply unless someone else quotes you, like gato keeps doing)
 
ClaireBear said:
Faith schools are intended for the children of those who are followers of that particular faith... therefore the Religious Education is geared around that religion, the values taught in the school are those of that religion... even down to the subject matter (Darwin vs Creationaism) is geared around that faith...

Those of different faiths to that of the school including humanists or atheists would not want their kids to be taught in that environment... an environment suggested by a particular name.
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once again wrong. If a school has a celebrity's name then it is just a name. A sports star does not mean the school will be good at sports(my HS football team is proof of that). It is a name. Nothing more should be read into it. As well as look at what is contributing to it. A church
 
I should start a movement to get the name of the county I live in changed. I'm in San Luis Obispo county, named for the county seat, San Luis Obispo, which was named for the Catholic mission the Spaniards set up in what's now the downtown, San Luis Obispo de Tolosa, to convert the natives to Catholicism. It must be so terrible for the non-Catholics to live in an area named after Saint Luis the bishop.
 
Imagine how Sean Penn, et al, feel. They make thier living in LOS ANGELES ;)
 
I don't use the ignore function... I like to read drivel... its entertaining!

And my "example" was just that AN EXAMPLE!

*CB puts down loud hailer*

Some people! :shrug:
 
Religion, PFFFFTTTT

You know, it's sad when a man can't even go and take a quiet crap in the woods without half the worlds religions chasing him.
 
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