School forces STD/HIV/pregnancy test on students

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greenfreak

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http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/crime/nyc-suit0708,0,6761671.story?coll=nyc-topheadlines-span

Ok here's the short version.

A bunch of girls and one boy ranging between 13 and 15 years old decide to play hooky on the last day of school before spring break. They have a "hooky party". The school finds out there was sexual activity at the party (some sources say it was a "sex party") and require the girls (but not the boy) to go to a gynecologist of the school's choosing to take STD/HIV/pregnancy tests before they're allowed back to school.

Now two families of the girls are suing (big surprise)

This did happen during school hours but not on school property.

Does the school have any right to demand this?
 
They have the right to demand tests on their students (you know, their school, their rules), but i'm not sure if it would be ethical to do it.

The big question is what would happen if a student ends up being possitive in the HIV test, or pregnant?, would she/he be banned from the school?.

btw, gf, i don't know if the board adds it manually, but the url has two http, and the other thread happened the same :confuse3:
 
Fuck no they don't have any right to do that. I don't give a shit if the kids got caught screwing in an empty classroom, they don't have any right to demand tests like that.
 
Some interesting (to me) bits from the story...
"The school suspended them without ever asking them whether they did anything wrong, without ever asking them their version of what went on," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, which filed the suit.
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The civil rights group was alerted by a Washington Heights clinic where the girls were tested.
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I think there's no basis. The school has no right. The rights of the school (as I know them) are limited to the school grounds and school-sponsored events. Here, the school can search your locker and any belongings in it without you knowing. They can search your car if its in the parking lot, but only if you are present. They can bust you for drinking on school property. They can bust you for drinking at school-sponsored events. They cannot bust you for attending a non-school-sponsored party which is off-campus and drinking. Why is this any different than going to a party and drinking? Illegal, yes, but its not the school's responsibility to call them on this.
 
not at all. there is no reason for it. it wasnt on school grounds and is an invasion of privacy. the kids should get checked dont get me wrong but they should make that decision.I can understand the schools idea here but they are going about it wrong.
 
Luis G said:
btw, gf, i don't know if the board adds it manually, but the url has two http, and the other thread happened the same :confuse3:
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My bad. The way I copy and paste links, I thought it was replacing the existing http that was already in the window but I guess not. :shrug:
 
Absolutely no grounds

They can be suspended for skipping class of course but what they did while they were not in class is none of the school's business. The school should suspend them for skipping, inform the parents that their children skipped class and then leave it up to the parents to find out what the kids were doing that day and punish them (or not) and have them tested (or not) as they see fit.
 
Luis said:
(you know, their school, their rules)
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OUR school OUR rules.

They had no right to do this. Fire those responsible but no litigatoin (it wastes taxes)
 
Gonz said:
OUR school OUR rules.

They had no right to do this. Fire those responsible but no litigatoin (it wastes taxes)
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so do shitloads of trials nowadays. but people still use it when they can get something :shrug: they probably will litigate it gonz. i know your not going to like that statement but you know how people are.
 
Gonz said:
OUR school OUR rules.

They had no right to do this. Fire those responsible but no litigatoin (it wastes taxes)
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I thought it was a private school, my comment doesn't apply to public ones
 
The link didn't pull up when I hit it. If it's private, you're correct.
 
Why would a private school be different though? I don't think it should be any different, no matter what kind of school. As long as it didn't happen on school property or at a school function, they have no business.
 
greenfreak said:
Why would a private school be different though? I don't think it should be any different, no matter what kind of school. As long as it didn't happen on school property or at a school function, they have no business.
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The have the right to ask whichever type of test to their students in order to be accepted, that's not something new. If they didn't like the idea, the students could have decided to quit that school when they were asked.

That's the way i see it. Not ethical maybe, but within the law.
 
greenfreak said:
Why would a private school be different though? I don't think it should be any different, no matter what kind of school. As long as it didn't happen on school property or at a school function, they have no business.
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public schools dont have as many rights as private ones. public is funded by the gov't and must adhere to the gov't and PTA and whatever else there is(my HS has a booster club which were parents that donated to the school and school clubs). private are just that. privatly owned.
 
Luis G said:
The have the right to ask whichever type of test to their students in order to be accepted, that's not something new. If they didn't like the idea, the students could have decided to quit that school when they were asked.

That's the way i see it. Not ethical maybe, but within the law.
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I don't know that that is true for any private schools. Invasion of privacy and all that. Just like the laws of capital punishment (paddling students) applies to all schools, I would think all laws apply. But if you're talking about admissions acceptance, that isn't really the case here. All these kids were already going to these schools.

Anyway, I agree that this isn't right, no matter which way you look at it. I'm really surprised this happened at all, honestly.

This kids are turning into little whores, huh? 13 years old? Geez. I didn't lose my virginity till I was 17.
 
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