Should Massachusetts reconsider...

Gonz

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...the death penalty?

The guy that killed the pedophile priest is already serving a life sentence for murder. This isn't about the dead pervert, so don't go there, it's about how somebody with literally nothing to lose can do as he/she damn well pleases. What are they gonna do? Give him another life sentence? Should they reconsider?
 
why waste tax dollars? just ensure he never gets parole. fuck him. he knows what he did, you think he's gonna want a trial? OOH! maybe he will for the fame...hmm. this could be interesting. seriously, i hope they don't try him. too much money for not enough good, ya know?
 
ive said it before . I am in favour of the death penalty. in cases like his yes. id say yes look it back over.
 
I'm in favor of the death penalty as well. In a case like this - kill 'im. I know it sounds bad. But I also know how much tax dollars come out of my paycheck, too. Granted, tax dollars are a wonderful thing and pay for many good thigns - but I'd prefer not to pay room and board for prisoners.
 
instituting the death penatly has been a minor topic for a few years now. nothing more than grumblings from the talk-radio circut. still way too many bleeding hearts around here to make that happen anytime soon. Massachusettes is still a favorite for new immigrants and it isn't because of cheap houses and good paying entry-level jobs.

as far as that guy is concerned, they will , more than likely, give him a second life sentence to run concurrently with his 1st sentence. (i've never completely understood the legal reasoning for that..) they will send him to Cedar Junction (max security prision) where he will be greeted warmly by the other inmates as the guy that killed the pedophile.

the end result is i will be paying for this loser for another 30-40 years....
 
maybe they should weigh the cost of a new trial and execution with the cost of keeping him in prison. i really could care less what they do to him. but it's gonna cost alot! of course, he prolly knew that he could face the death penalty, so i guess he doesn't care either.
 
Dont' kill him, you idiots, put him in the same cells as all the other pedophile rapists first. Geez.
 
consider this as well:

when somebody is on death row for let's say, uhhh....10 years, he or she costs a hell of a lot of money as well. not just housing and food, but all the additional costs as well. in some cases it even exceeds the costs of a life time sentence, depending on the age and dying age of the person in question.
death sentence isn't a cheap way to get rid of scum. neither should cost be the deciding factor in somebodies sentence. "hey, let's just puth him to death, that's cheaper..."

in no way can somebody call that justice.
 
Spot...You are already paying that regardless. He was already serving a life sentence. And he saved you from paying for father gropeme's jail term...The reason they trie him for this is to add the second life term. I doubt they'll run it concurrent...
 
Exactly, he probably won't get out, so at least put him to good use. :shrug:
 
What are they gonna do? Give him another life sentence? Should they reconsider?

i'm guessing that most of the uproar will be about how someone could get killed in prison. the guy that killed him will more than likely fade from the media's attention.
 
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7

Death penalty trials very costly relative to county budgets. Capital cases burden county budgets with large unexpected costs, according to a report released by the National Bureau of Economic Research, "The Budgetary Repercussions of Capital Convictions," by Katherine Baicker. Counties manage these high costs by decreasing funding for highways and police and by increasing taxes. The report estimates that between 1982-1997 the extra cost of capital trials was $1.6 billion. (NBER Working Paper No. w8382, Issued in July 2001) Read the abstract.

Total cost of death penalty 38% greater than total cost of life without parole sentences. A study by Indiana's Criminal Law Study Commission found this to be true, assuming that 20% of death sentences are overturned and resentenced to life. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)

North Carolina spends $2.16 million more per execution than on a non-death penalty murder case. The most comprehensive death penalty study in the country found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million more per execution than the a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of life imprisonment (Duke University, May 1993). On a national basis, these figures translate to an extra cost of over $1 billion spent since 1976 on the death penalty. The study,"The Costs of Processing Murder Cases in North Carolina" is available on line at www-pps.aas.duke.edu/people/faculty/cook/comnc.pdf.

Florida spends $51 million extra per year on death penalty. Florida would save $51 million each year by punishing all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole, according to estimates by the Palm Beach Post. Based on the 44 executions Florida has carried out since 1976, that amounts to an approximate cost of $24 million for each execution. This finding takes into account the relatively few inmates who are actually executed, as well as the time and effort expended on capital defendants who are tried but convicted of a lesser murder charge, and those whose deathe sentences are overturned on appeal. (Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000)

California spends $90 million annually beyond ordinary costs of justice system. $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988). In January 2003, despite a budge deficit, California Governor Gray Davis proposed building a new $220 million state of the art death row. (New York Times, January 14, 2003)

Florida spent average of $3.2 million per execution from 1973 to 1988. During that time period, Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty to achieve 18 executions. (Miami Herald, July 10, 1988)

Each death penalty case costs Texas average of $2.3 million. That is about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years. (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992)

rrfield
 
FTR-the murderer is serving a "life without parole" sentence for murder. Mass doesn't have a death penalty option. According to the USA Today, his penalty may be life in isolation. No contact outside of jailhouse guards.

PT said:
Dont' kill him, you idiots, put him in the same cells as all the other pedophile rapists first. Geez.

Well, yea :D
 
outside looking in said:
People being on death row for 10 years is the problem in the first place. 1 year, max, then into the chair they should go.

But this ignores the constitutional right to due process.

rrfield
 
Shadowfax said:
consider this as well:

when somebody is on death row for let's say, uhhh....10 years, he or she costs a hell of a lot of money as well. not just housing and food, but all the additional costs as well. in some cases it even exceeds the costs of a life time sentence, depending on the age and dying age of the person in question.
death sentence isn't a cheap way to get rid of scum. neither should cost be the deciding factor in somebodies sentence. "hey, let's just puth him to death, that's cheaper..."

in no way can somebody call that justice.
ill agree to that but id rather pay to have them not be a threat anymore than to pay for them to live on.
 
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