Spanking not disallowed

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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]On Friday, the age-old question about sparing the rod and spoiling the child was back on the table. And the Supreme Court of Canada decided to answer it by sticking with the past.

Section 43 of the Criminal Code permits those in authority – parents, teachers and caregivers – to use “reasonable” physical methods to discipline kids. And children’s advocates had launched a case claiming that spanking violated children’s human rights, in an effort to get the rule off the books.

Lawyers complained that striking children goes against the basic right of respect for human dignity and physical integrity.

But on Friday the court upheld the law, although it was careful to establish guidelines meant to set reasonable limits.

Although the 6-3 decision threw out the rights violation argument, it did set up ways to help lower-court judges figure out what could be considered acceptable and unacceptable force.

For example, using corporal punishment on kids under two-years-old isn’t reasonable and the same goes for teenagers. And the courts also found using things like rulers or belts to hit children or striking a child on the face or head is unacceptable.

Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin established the general rule as being that physical punishment should only involve “minor corrective force of a transitory and trifling nature.”
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I feel it's the most reasonable [pc] decision that could have been made at this time.

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Only thing that bothers me is why does a parent have to use some type of weapon to hit thier child (ie belt or ruler) where an open handed slap would do the job. I just think using weapons should result in a rights violation.
 
There are provisions within that decision. Under 2, and over ... 14 or 16 i think they said, is excluded. So is any kind of strap to the head.
 
My parents never hit me "hard", in fact now that i think of it they didn't even put the requiered force, the real punishment was to see them mad at me and spanking me, even when there was no real physical pain involved.

I think we wok so much alike dogs, hit a dog with a newspaper, it won't hurt him, but he will sure learn his lesson.
 
I'd consider my dad's hand much more of a "weapon" than the belt ever was. Hell. I wanted the belt to be used on those very rare occassions when a spankin' was called for.

It's good they set guidelines. Too bad people can't use common sense and respect to figure things out like this on their own - what's reasonable amount of physical discipline. I agree with the under two years of age.

But if teens started getting spankings properly - perhaps they'd behave better? ;)
 
rose said:
But if teens started getting spankings properly - perhaps they'd behave better?
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Or we'd have more kids liking it during alone times with their current partner (if you get my drift) :D
 
ever been hit on the head with a brush for wiggling while getting your hair brushed? i have...what about the wooden spoon *shudders....some people are just so damned sensitive....i don't use the wooden spoon...that's just too many bad memories but i have done the subconcious comb whack...sorry...but when was the last time you brushed a wiggling 2 yr olds long hair? there is a time and a place for corporal punishment :shrug:
 
You cna't use anything but your open hand, and not on bare flesh. You can't use corporal punichment on any child uder two years of age, nor on anyone over the age of 12. The term 'reasoneable force' is still being bandied about...don't kow who makes the judgements re: what's reasoneable and what isn't.
 
And the 'human rights' activists and moaning about this being a step backwards for children's rights.
The Child Welfare League of Canada, which argues that spanking leads to abuse, said it would continue to lobby Parliament for a ban.
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Hey asshole. You had your day in court. You lost. Give over already.

"And that's the problem with Section 43. It still gives us outs. It still allows the idea and perpetuates the notion that children are second-class citizens."
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No, you cuntbrain. They're children. And need to have the rights controlled accordingly. Not mandated by a cunt like you who doesn't even know them. Asshole.
 
Professur said:
And the 'human rights' activists and moaning about this being a step backwards for children's rights.


Hey asshole. You had your day in court. You lost. Give over already.



No, you cuntbrain. They're children. And need to have the rights controlled accordingly. Not mandated by a cunt like you who doesn't even know them. Asshole.
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You can't beat your wife, you can't beat your neightbor, you can't beat your co-workers, strangers or even your pets. You CAN beat your kids...that's why she's calling them second class citizens.
 
MrBishop said:
You can't beat your wife, you can't beat your neightbor, you can't beat your co-workers, strangers or even your pets. You CAN beat your kids...that's why she's calling them second class citizens.
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It never ceases to amaze me just how wrong one person can be all the time.
 
Aye, that is one discussion I think I should stay out of, for the sake of my sanity. (Done it on too many boards..) I'll just limit myself to saying that I am glad spanking is illegal alltogether over here.
 
Well, since I'm for corporal punishment for adults, I really don't have a problem with using it on kids. However, I will say that it needs to be codified and explained in detail. "Do you understand why I'm punishing you? Let me explain it again to make sure." Reacting angrily and hitting your kid is not acceptable (although I doubt it usually does them any lasting harm).
 
I don't understand this age 12 shit. So we can't spank over age 12? Are we just supposed to start punching at that age, or what?
 
I think the idea is that if you haven't made him afraid enough to be good after 10 years, he's not responding to treatment.
 
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