That's enough. Time to ban

brownjenkins said:
i think the problem here is the child... not the implement... you could kill a fellow student with a well placed blow to the back of the neck with a history book... i'm not too keen on guns 'cause they can kill from such a distance and can take down many people in a very short period of time


You can kill a person with a rock, too. Most hand-guns have the same range with accuracy, anyway. Hell...the drop from a .45 is so bad, you'd hit the ground before you hit a target at more than 40 yards. Your argument holds no water. You even mention history books...Since you're so into banning guns, why aren't you banning every deadly weapon? The arguments for 'gun control' are based on emotion and hypocrisy, not logic. I've pointed this out before, and I'm pointing it out here. On a personal note, I'd rather be shot than cut up with a box-cutter. Why? My chances of survival are higher.
 
Gato_Solo said:
You can kill a person with a rock, too. Most hand-guns have the same range with accuracy, anyway. Hell...the drop from a .45 is so bad, you'd hit the ground before you hit a target at more than 40 yards. Your argument holds no water. You even mention history books...Since you're so into banning guns, why aren't you banning every deadly weapon? The arguments for 'gun control' are based on emotion and hypocrisy, not logic. I've pointed this out before, and I'm pointing it out here. On a personal note, I'd rather be shot than cut up with a box-cutter. Why? My chances of survival are higher.

hypothetical... you are standing at the back of a classroom alone... crazy kid walks in intending to kill you (about 30 feet away)... would your chances be better for survival if he was armed with a boxcutter or a gun? (assuming his is not a circus-performer with awesome knife-throwing abilities)... what if there were two or three of you in the back of the room?

if there was another door near you, would you consider turning and running if he had a boxcutter?

how about if he had a gun?
 
brownjenkins said:
hypothetical... you are standing at the back of a classroom alone... crazy kid walks in intending to kill you (about 30 feet away)... would your chances be better for survival if he was armed with a boxcutter or a gun? (assuming his is not a circus-performer with awesome knife-throwing abilities)... what if there were two or three of you in the back of the room?

if there was another door near you, would you consider turning and running if he had a boxcutter?

how about if he had a gun?

If I had no escape? The gun. Most classrooms only have one door, anyway. If there are two, or three of us? I'd still rather he had the gun. He can only target one person at a time, and there's a good chance he/she will miss. You can slash with a knife/box-cutter and catch 2 or 3 people. As for the third question, same answer. Gun or box-cutter makes no difference.
 
brownjenkins said:


Most people don't die from gunshots. You take a blade, and you'll bleed out before the ambulance can reach you. I thought I already explained that...or is it you have such an anti-gun agenda, you refuse to see that.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Most people don't die from gunshots. You take a blade, and you'll bleed out before the ambulance can reach you. I thought I already explained that...or is it you have such an anti-gun agenda, you refuse to see that.

how 'bout a duel to settle it... you pick your favorite boxcutter and i'll go gun shopping :D
 
brownjenkins said:
how 'bout a duel to settle it... you pick your favorite boxcutter and i'll go gun shopping :D

As long as it's a handgun, you'll lose. I like pangas. I can eviscerate you with one swing, chin to crotch, and, trust me, the gun will never fire...not because I'm that fast, but because I won't be a sitting target.
 
Gato_Solo said:
As long as it's a handgun, you'll lose. I like pangas. I can eviscerate you with one swing, chin to crotch, and, trust me, the gun will never fire...not because I'm that fast, but because I won't be a sitting target.

Damn, you military guys should use knives instaed of guns ;)

:p
 
Luis G said:
Damn, you military guys should use knives instaed of guns ;)

:p

Bullets, in war, aren't used to kill the enemy. That's what bombs, mortars, and rockets are for. Bullets are used to keep the enemy pinned down. Most folks are 'only' wounded, because it takes 3 people off the battlefield (the wounded person and the 2 people needed to take care of the wounded person until the medics arrive). More people are killed, in war, by bayonets than bullets.
 
Gato_Solo said:
More people are killed, in war, by bayonets than bullets.
I would be interested to see some stats on that. I would agree if you had said more people are killed by explosives of some variety, but bayonets?
 
PuterTutor said:
I would be interested to see some stats on that. I would agree if you had said more people are killed by explosives of some variety, but bayonets?

I overheard this conversation between 2 marines this past summer...
Marine 1: "Why are you bothering with that bayonet? Statistics show that
less than one percent of casualties in hospital were wounded by
bayonets!"

Marine 2: "Because if I get close enough to use this, he's not going to the
fucking hospital."

:shrug: Unscientific, but quite apt...
 
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