The End of an Era, Pt. 2
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JJR512 said:A few have already noticed, and word may have spread, but just in case anyone who cares missed it...:
Two-ish years ago, some of you commented on "the end of an era", the era of the existence of JJR512.com. The era since then, the era without JJR512.com, is itself now over. Yes, that's right: JJR512.com is online once again.
Not, however, in its original state. It is just an archive, all forums are closed for new posts (for now). Some of the extra features may be a bit wonky, but as far as I can tell, the core functions of the message board work. You can see the forums, go into them, read threads and posts. Search should work.
If anything is wrong, if something doesn't work or you need help, let me know by public or private message here, private message at JJR512.com (yeah, that's actually still on), shoot me an email, or...find another wayto get me the message.
I must comment on this.
Why make a poll at cat's site if you planned to re-open the site anyway?
Why make agreements with catocom to host the archives and take that back later? (I suppose you made them, otherwise a poll was useless)
It is your database and your site, you're free to do whatever you want with them, but if all you wanted was attention so you could re-open big time, I find this situation highly unethical.
JJR512
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I did not plan to re-open JJR512.com (as a stand-alone website) when I posted that poll.* Re-opening JJR512.com as a stand-alone website was one of several possibilities I was considering; that's why it was one of the poll choices. The purpose of the poll was to see what the majority opinion was; I never promised to go along with the most popular choice from the poll.Luis G said:
Your supposition about making arrangements with catocom to have a JJR512.com forum archived within his website are not quite correct. This was certainly discussed; catocom let me know he would do that, if that's what I wanted to do. I never committed to it, and I never took anything back. Things were discussed only as concepts or possibilities. In any event, I'm not sure I understand why you should be so concerned about this particular aspect. It's not as if my decision to use my own webhosting account and domain name have in any way hurt catocom, that I am aware of (catocom please correct me if I'm wrong, and I'll make it right).
I also disagree that I have re-opened "big time". The JJR512.com archive was opened for a few days before I posted anything about it. Perhaps this is just a difference of opinion. To me, a "big time" re-opening would have involved an announcement both here and at Thread Wonders (which was not done at all) the instant it was opened; an announcement would have been sent out to every email address in every JJR512.com members' records (this was not done); and, to make it really "big time", the board would have been re-opened as a fully upgraded, fully operational, opened-for-business message board, not as a decrepit, half-working, many-versions-old version of vBulletin that isn't even open for new posts. As it is, I got the board up so the minimum functionality is working, it's closed, and I did it with very little fanfare.
The only real complaint that I can credit is that I didn't go with the popular opinion of the poll. But I never promised to. My number one choice was to merge JJR512.com and Thread Wonders into one unified message board. This was not what the members of Thread Wonders wanted, clearly shown by the poll, so that's not being done. The winning option (last time I checked) was for JJR512.com to be re-opened in a closed (archive) state on catocom's website. The fact that it's on my webhosting account and accessed through the www.jjr512.com domain name makes no difference at all; it would have looked and acted the same either way.
* To be absolutely truthful, the idea of re-opening JJR512.com as its own stand-alone website and opened for new posts has always been an idea in the back of my mind. It's certainly been on my mind recently. It may or may not happen. However, at the time I posted the poll, I did not have a secret intention of doing this anyway, no matter what the poll showed. My primary intent with the poll was to see if the two boards could be combined, which was my first choice. Since that was not the way the poll went, I decided to go another way, the way I'm going now. I apologize if you feel this was deceptive, but there was no intentional deception on my part.
Re-opening big-time is not necessarily re-opening suddenly with new features, it can be done slowly but succesfully. But since you already stated that you didn't have that secret intention by the time you posted the poll (which is what I find extremely unethical), I'll take your word for it.
I do not know what was discussed with catocom, so I can't go further.
I do not know what was discussed with catocom, so I can't go further.
catocom
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See that is where I got lost. I thought we were going to make a decision jointly,JJR512 said:
and that it would reflect the poll.
You posted the poll before even consulting on what all the options would be with me.
You then farther left me out in the cold when you opened.
That's close to my recollection, except I though the understanding was that the users would decide.JJR512 said:
Then when it did go to your liking, you did your own thing, but let people
think you were still affiliated with me.
Let me tell everyone NOW. THERE IS NO affiliation between "Thread Wonders", and JJR512.con. Not now.
I think the rest of your post reflects that you are indeed the classic JJR512.JJR512 said:
JJR512
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I apologize if I misunderstood you, and I know I came off as being defensive. I'm sorry.Luis G said:
Catocom, I PM'd you the exact wording of the poll message and poll options, and you replied something to the effect of it looked good to you, and I posted it exactly as it was the PM. I don't see how you can say I didn't consult with you; what am I misunderstanding? I'm lost. Really. I'm trying to be understanding here.
JJR512
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For the record, I should have made it clear to both catocom and to anyone voting in that poll that I was reserving the right to not necessarily abide by the results of the poll. It didn't occur to me at the time, and now my mistake has caused some bad feelings, and for that, I am truly sorry. I did not intent to mislead anyone; I just obviously wasn't thinking. Again, I apologize.
On the other hand, I maintain that I informed catocom of the exact wordings of the poll message and options prior to posting that thread. It was my idea originally (the proposed merger), and after discussing it with catocom, he suggested having a poll about it (which I would have done anyway), and I said I would write up a draft and submit it to him. I did this. He replied to my draft with an indication that it was OK to post. So I don't know where the confusion is on this point. I have just reviewed the PMs, I have saved copies of them, and I still don't understand what the problem is.
The only other point to make here is that I never said, claimed, or implied that there was any affiliation between Thread Wonders and JJR512.com. The only thing I ever said about it was when I mentioned in the poll that I was proposing a merger, thus the point of the poll.
Catocom, I'm sorry you feel this way now. We have been friends (or so it seemed to me) for a long time online, and you've helped me out a great deal. I would never want to or try to do anything to hurt you, and it hurts me to think that you would think I could. We've been through too much to let it fall apart like this. I'm trying to work with you here; I went back over what we said to each other, realized I did make a mistake, as I mentioned at the top of this message, and I apologized for it. I'm saying it again: I'm sorry. You have a nice long PM (could JJR512 possibly write a short one?--I don't think so) about it, too, at Thread Wonders waiting for you. If I didn't care about you, do you think I would bother to go back and check myself to see if I was wrong, if I made a mistake? You know--everyone knows--how much I hate to admit I'm wrong. Think about it. Can't you look back over our PMs and see if maybe there's a bit of misunderstanding on your part as well? Just think about it, look at what's there and think about what I'm saying, is all I'm asking. Please.
On the other hand, I maintain that I informed catocom of the exact wordings of the poll message and options prior to posting that thread. It was my idea originally (the proposed merger), and after discussing it with catocom, he suggested having a poll about it (which I would have done anyway), and I said I would write up a draft and submit it to him. I did this. He replied to my draft with an indication that it was OK to post. So I don't know where the confusion is on this point. I have just reviewed the PMs, I have saved copies of them, and I still don't understand what the problem is.
The only other point to make here is that I never said, claimed, or implied that there was any affiliation between Thread Wonders and JJR512.com. The only thing I ever said about it was when I mentioned in the poll that I was proposing a merger, thus the point of the poll.
Catocom, I'm sorry you feel this way now. We have been friends (or so it seemed to me) for a long time online, and you've helped me out a great deal. I would never want to or try to do anything to hurt you, and it hurts me to think that you would think I could. We've been through too much to let it fall apart like this. I'm trying to work with you here; I went back over what we said to each other, realized I did make a mistake, as I mentioned at the top of this message, and I apologized for it. I'm saying it again: I'm sorry. You have a nice long PM (could JJR512 possibly write a short one?--I don't think so) about it, too, at Thread Wonders waiting for you. If I didn't care about you, do you think I would bother to go back and check myself to see if I was wrong, if I made a mistake? You know--everyone knows--how much I hate to admit I'm wrong. Think about it. Can't you look back over our PMs and see if maybe there's a bit of misunderstanding on your part as well? Just think about it, look at what's there and think about what I'm saying, is all I'm asking. Please.
Inkara1
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So it began...
http://www.jjr512.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29677
For the record, last time I saw the monitor it was still working fine, and that was a year and a half later.
http://www.jjr512.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29677
For the record, last time I saw the monitor it was still working fine, and that was a year and a half later.
Inkara1
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Hey, prof, still using the same card?
http://www.jjr512.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28677
And did you ever upgrade from the 6X CD drive?
http://www.jjr512.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28677
And did you ever upgrade from the 6X CD drive?
Hell man, I started putering with a Hercules graphics card and thought I was the shit. I even downloaded porn on that puppy. Of course that was on a 2400 baud BBS. If you started wanking real hard when you saw the hair on her head, you could just about finish up by the time you saw nipples.Luis G said:A 1MB card can not even run a 1024x768x24 screen resolution. !!!!!
unclehobart
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http://www.jjr512.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=20323&highlight=religionGato_Solo said:Psst...post the link for those who have forgotten...such as myself.