The Pope is pissed
- Thread starter Gonz
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Gonz said:
He chose to just shuffle priests instead of stopping them.
chcr
Too cute for words
Freako, it has been going on for centuries, if not millenia, all over the world. It's just been recently, as the power of the church has waned that people have had the courage to speak up. Everyone seems to think this is just a recent problem but it has been going on throughout the history of the church. Oh, and if you think it's limited to catholics, you're a fool.freako104 said:
Lopan
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Gonz said:
It wasn't love that built the great cathedrals here. Christanity used fear to keep people paying into its quaffers.
Henry VIII saw to Beckett and the pontiffs tribe.
Cromwell did away with the Crown* when they did the same. Then mass education did away with christianity.
*They came back but not as a true monarchy.
freako104
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chcr said:
If you want the truth I did not think this was an old case. I thought it was recent. For the most part I affiliated historical Church power with violence and forced conversions and confessions. Also for the most part I thought it was limited to Catholics. Not saying they are the only ones but that the other Christian Denominations do it to a far less extent.
Cat: Religion itself is not corrupted. Instead it can be a beautiful idea. Man fucked it up badly
chcr
Too cute for words
Well, of course I have another opinion, but I'm too lazy to type it out right now.freako104 said:
Just a sample, a lot of this stuff was suppressed.
freako104
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the reason I said it was a beautiful thing Chic is because it has some nice moral ideas(love thy neighbour, hate the sin but love the sinner, forgiveness etc). Also religious people will say we are created in Gods image but we are imperfect. I agree with the Imperfect part
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
1. Being baptist, I could not possibly care less what the pope thinks or says about anything.
2. I too find it curious that the very denomination that has been clobbered in the news lately for the escapades of some of its leaders is now taking a stance against an eerily similar behavior it was lambasted for, with the notable exception of the victims being children.
3. I am living proof that one can be a Christian without having a lot of support for organized religion. I will openly agree with the oft-quoted statement that more evil has been committed in the name of the church than in any other name. That being said, church, religion, faith, and Christianity are hardly the same thing.
4. I will also agree that many apects of organized religion are or have at one time or another been corrupt to varying degrees. Again, that IMO does not negate the truth of the ideaology furthered by the various Christian faiths. To me, to examine one aspect of "the church" and then conclude that that makes Christianity as a whole invalid is false logic. If one follows that line of reasoning, then one would also conclude that all science is bunk because a certain long-held theory is proven incorrect.
[SnP retreating back into the shadows, allowing the rest to duke it out as is inevitable]
2. I too find it curious that the very denomination that has been clobbered in the news lately for the escapades of some of its leaders is now taking a stance against an eerily similar behavior it was lambasted for, with the notable exception of the victims being children.
3. I am living proof that one can be a Christian without having a lot of support for organized religion. I will openly agree with the oft-quoted statement that more evil has been committed in the name of the church than in any other name. That being said, church, religion, faith, and Christianity are hardly the same thing.
4. I will also agree that many apects of organized religion are or have at one time or another been corrupt to varying degrees. Again, that IMO does not negate the truth of the ideaology furthered by the various Christian faiths. To me, to examine one aspect of "the church" and then conclude that that makes Christianity as a whole invalid is false logic. If one follows that line of reasoning, then one would also conclude that all science is bunk because a certain long-held theory is proven incorrect.
[SnP retreating back into the shadows, allowing the rest to duke it out as is inevitable]
chcr
Too cute for words
Actually, cat's & SnP's take on religion isn't that far off from mine (always excepting that I don't believe and they do). There are any number of wonderful people who espouse a faith. I fear that when that faith becomes "organized" (for want of a better word) is when you get the greed and corruption and all of the things that irreligious people take exception to.
