The price of one human life?

[MrBishop]

$1,425 US$ - each

July 7, 2004 -- NEW ORLEANS — An Air National Guard fighter pilot who mistakenly bombed Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan in 2002, killing four, was found guilty yesterday of dereliction of duty and was reprimanded and docked a month's pay, or nearly $5,700.
Maj. Harry Schmidt, 38, "acted shamefully" during the episode, "exhibiting arrogance and a lack of flight discipline," Air Force Lt. Gen. Bruce Carlson wrote in the reprimand.

Schmidt, a former instructor at the Navy's Top Gun fighter-pilot school, had blamed the bombing on the "fog of war," saying he mistook the Canadians' gunfire for an attack by Taliban forces.

Schmidt was found guilty after a closed, nonjudicial hearing held last week at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana. AP

links: Source
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...ul07,1,6321677.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/24578.htm
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php?story=20040706234103482
etc etc...

 

[ResearchMonkey]

That is expensive, you can kill a new one for $350

 

[MrBishop]

That is expensive, you can kill a new one for $350

Cute. Flippant, but cute. *That nice pic/avatar comes from a study by Leorardo da Vinci...the study material is taken from disinterred bodies of women who had died in childbirth...not having had the choice to abort in order to save their own lives*

It shames me to think that killing a deer, out of seaason, will fetch you a fine nearly 4 times higher than killing a man...in any season.

Anyone who hunts or kills any deer with any lighting device is subject to a maximum fine of $5,000, five days in jail, and the loss of hunting, fishing and trapping privileges for three years

Source

 

[ResearchMonkey]

In the field and season of war, shit happens.

When the war is on the streets in your town, and the people go to the woods for safety, you can kill all the deer you like with out worry of a fine.

People died from tooth infections back then too (over 25%). I don't think abortions were much of an issue then either.

A woman has a choice; don't fuck. Once she does, she then has a responsibility.

 

[MrBishop]

A woman has a choice; don't fuck. Once she does, she then has a responsibility.

Unless she's raped...or forced to have sex by their spouces or partners. Not every woman has a choice, ya know.

What if she wanted a child and complications make it dangerous or deadly for her to bring the child to term. Should she risk her life and the life of her unborn child because 'right to lifers' say so...or because she chose to take the risk or not?

I'm anti-abortion, but pro-choice. I don't think that anyone should dictate (especially not the GVT) what anyone should do with their bodies...wether that be abortion, refusing medical treatment or other.

As for shit happenes... if it had been an accident - fine.

This was not an accident, but a refusal to obey orders. He wanted to take responsibility, but his commanders didn't want him to smear the good name of the Air Force, so they took that honor from him. Then, the judge took it upon himself to protect him by rendering a weak judgement.

All this bullshit made worst by GVT and Legal interventions.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Why don't you just make rape illegal? . . . oh I forgot you can’t legislate morality?

Rape accounts for a very small % of the abortions. Life threatening pregnancy is usually a predictable complication (get your tubes tied) Of course you can make allowable situations for the exceptions and adoption in always an option. Children can be removed from the womb at 30 weeks and have a great chance of survival as opposed to certain death of being cut-up after the scissors have been rammed into their brains. Children have been born at 20 weeks and survived. (its all about the lung development and they can medicate to induce early lung development)

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It was a bad incident. It should not have happened. It did, it was manslaughter - in combat.

 

[MrBishop]

Why don't you just make rape illegal? . . . oh I forgot you can’t legislate morality?

Rape is illegal.

Rape accounts for a very small % of the abortions. Life threatening pregnancy is usually a predictable complication (get your tubes tied)

It's predictable once it's happened once. Women don't get checked for potential birthing problems...hell, they don't even get blood tests before marriage anymore.

Of course you can make allowable situations for the exceptions and adoption in always an option. Children can be removed from the womb at 30 weeks and have a great chance of survival as opposed to certain death of being cut-up after the scissors have been rammed into their brains. Children have been born at 20 weeks and survived. (its all about the lung development and they can medicate to induce early lung development)

Yes...adoption is always an option etc...I understand that. As is removal of the fetus early etc etc...all options. Abortion is also an option...pro-lifers don't want it to be. That's the whole argument right there.

If you prefer...we can take this to another thread...abortion as a non-option...I've done it before and I don't mind the battle again. Right now though...I'd rather talk about the death of 4 soldiers and the coverup.

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It was a bad incident. It should not have happened. It did, it was manslaughter - in combat.

Shame it wasn't tried like manslaughter.

 

[Gonz]

Unless she's raped...or forced to have sex by their spouces or partners.

WTF IS THE DIFFERENCE????