THE RIDDLE OF EPICURUS
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God must prevent evil. With humans all things are relative. A teen growing up in the USA may commit suicide because her acne is so bad she cannot bear to look at herself. A teen in Africa watches as her family is wiped out by aids and malnutrition but she takes over as the caretaker and raises her siblings struggling against all odds to survive. What is the difference between these two girls? Relativity.
Therin lies the answer to your question. We humans judge everything relatively. If god were to remove the worst crime imaginable from the planet we would automatically look at the next worst crime with equal disgust and horror. If he did this idefinitely eventually he would have to prevent all crimes and then what? Without the ability to go against the will of god we have no will and are nothing more than machines.
If you can grasp this concept it completely oblitorates the stumbling block of Epicurus. When i was in my early twenties i had this epiphany and to this day i am greatful for it as i know it has been a stumbling block for many so-called intellectuals over the millenia.
Those attempting to answer these questions purely from a human perspective will never understand. You must think from the perspective of god. After all if you don't want to even consider god then what's the point of the question. You can't argue a rainbow with someone who refuses to ponder the color red.
Therin lies the answer to your question. We humans judge everything relatively. If god were to remove the worst crime imaginable from the planet we would automatically look at the next worst crime with equal disgust and horror. If he did this idefinitely eventually he would have to prevent all crimes and then what? Without the ability to go against the will of god we have no will and are nothing more than machines.
If you can grasp this concept it completely oblitorates the stumbling block of Epicurus. When i was in my early twenties i had this epiphany and to this day i am greatful for it as i know it has been a stumbling block for many so-called intellectuals over the millenia.
Those attempting to answer these questions purely from a human perspective will never understand. You must think from the perspective of god. After all if you don't want to even consider god then what's the point of the question. You can't argue a rainbow with someone who refuses to ponder the color red.
Genesis 8:20...
Man is the captain of his destiny. We either stop evil or allow it to flourish by our laws, ideas & ideals. God wouldn't be malevolent for stepping aside. He'd be like a parent allowing their child to suffer fall...very little learning comes form pleasantries & niceness.
Man is the captain of his destiny. We either stop evil or allow it to flourish by our laws, ideas & ideals. God wouldn't be malevolent for stepping aside. He'd be like a parent allowing their child to suffer fall...very little learning comes form pleasantries & niceness.
I use whatever I come acrosss first. I knew of the passage & use the bible gateway for quick reference. I'd like to find a pre-King James version that is in understandable english.
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Gonz said:
Tyndale's Bible NT was written in 1525 and Wycliffe's Bible were written in 1384, 1395. Of course, what language they are in I have no clue.I suppose you could just learn Hebrew and Greek then use the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint directly. There are a few others to, Cloverdale's Bible in 1535, Matthew's Bible in 1537, The Great Bible in 1539, The Geneva Bible in 1557, 1560, and the Bishop's Bible in 1568. Many more though.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/lits/library/guides/biblver.htm
