Cerise
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Cerise, you ready to explain how it is you consider public service the same as welfare?
Spike, are you able to admit with the statement above that you are lying about the words I said?
Cerise, you ready to explain how it is you consider public service the same as welfare?
There's no plan in place for universal compulsory service. Rahm Emmanuel likes the idea so he wrote a book about it.
All this other crap is pure speculation. American thinker indeed.
As chief of staff, Emanuel will not be in a position to directly introduce public policy, but his enthusiasm for compulsory service, combined with Barack Obama's own plan to require high school students to perform 50 hours of government-approved service, suggest an unfortunate direction for the new administration.
In fact, Obama's national service plan is "voluntary" in a technical sense -- nobody will be arrested for declining to participate. But non-participants also won't be allowed to graduate from high school, and without those diplomas, life could get a bit rough.
The question Cerise is why you consider national service, military or otherwise exactly like receiving welfare?
You're the one that called public service welfare. Why would you insult the people taht serve our country?
Care to rephrase that "No plan" part?
Prove that I said those words.
"Compulsory civilian national service for those who expect to collect Fearless Leader's welfare checks."
What welfare checks for people performing national service are you referring to?
Problem solved:
Compulsory civilian national service for those who expect to collect Fearless Leader's welfare checks.
Turns out the plan has been posted for quite some time.
Not sure why we're not using that in the discussion.
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/NationalServicePlanFactSheet.pdf
Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free.
Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
So you're saying you do consider payment for national service to be welfare. Glad we got that settled.
How about the questions I asked though?
What welfare checks for people performing national service are you referring to?
Who's getting these welfare checks you speak of? High school students?
We still need to sort out why you consider payment for national service to be welfare.
And those questions you keep missing
What welfare checks for people performing national service are you referring to?
Who's getting these welfare checks you speak of? High school students?
Get back to me when you have some proof that I actually said the above instead of just making shit up because you have nowhere to go with this.
Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free.
That particular speech has been removed from the speech archives at http://www.barackobama.com/speeches/index.php. Must want to hide something.
Here is the video of his statement about a Civilian National Security Force in his own words, in his own voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
About the author of the article:
I call that welfare and it will be high school students who are receiving it so they can go to college and have the first $4,000 of welfare money to start their college education.
Geez, it's not hard to back a couple posts
"how much of my valuable time will I be expected to donate to the compulsory civilian national service in order to receive my Welfare Check from Fearless Leader?
Compulsory civilian national service for those who expect to collect Fearless Leader's welfare checks."
What welfare checks for people performing national service are you referring to?
Who's getting these welfare checks you speak of? High school students?