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Error said:
lol... He hasn't tried to hide that for a while... like I said our relationship for the most part was just this big emotional wreck... good bad and everything in between but mostly bad... but I loved the bad because it's when I could feel that I loved him the most... I liked always feeling that I loved him instead of having to just think it... but sex was never a part of it.
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I'd like to welcome you to the select group of people who understand that sex and love aren't mutually inclusive.
 
Professur said:
I'd like to welcome you to the select group of people who understand that sex and love aren't mutually inclusive.
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I know they're not mutually inclusive...but at the same time I think it's kind of silly for two people to be in a relationship if they do not want to have sex (I am not talking about people who abstain for moral/religious reasons, that's another rant for another time). You can love each other and not want to have sex, OR want to have sex and not love each other...but unless you love someone AND desire to have sex with them what's the point of being in a relationship?
 
Nixy said:
I know they're not mutually inclusive...but at the same time I think it's kind of silly for two people to be in a relationship if they do not want to have sex (I am not talking about people who abstain for moral/religious reasons, that's another rant for another time). You can love each other and not want to have sex, OR want to have sex and not love each other...but unless you love someone AND desire to have sex with them what's the point of being in a relationship?
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Relationship can mean different things for different people. I think my relationship with Dan was ideal simply because it relied more on Love as an emotion rather than Love as an action. I think I'd literally live without sex for the rest of my life if it meant I could be with Dan for the rest of my life. A relationship doesn't have rules or requirements in my opinion.

In fact, I once knew a couple who loved each other, and considered themselves to be together, had a relationship, but both fucked freely. They fucked other people more often than each other, the both of them. They had a mutual understanding but there was also love. That was just as much a relationship as Dan and I were, or any other variant.

I honestly think "normal" relationships are rarer than we think. Everyone I know is in an odd relationship. The whole "man and woman meet, fall in love, have sex with each other, and only each other, marry, have family, and die" is boring if you ask me. I'd hate to just have a bleh husband with some bleh love and some bleh sex and call that happy.
 
Error said:
Relationship can mean different things for different people. I think my relationship with Dan was ideal simply because it relied more on Love as an emotion rather than Love as an action. I think I'd literally live without sex for the rest of my life if it meant I could be with Dan for the rest of my life. A relationship doesn't have rules or requirements in my opinion.

In fact, I once knew a couple who loved each other, and considered themselves to be together, had a relationship, but both fucked freely. They fucked other people more often than each other, the both of them. They had a mutual understanding but there was also love. That was just as much a relationship as Dan and I were, or any other variant.

I honestly think "normal" relationships are rarer than we think. Everyone I know is in an odd relationship. The whole "man and woman meet, fall in love, have sex with each other, and only each other, marry, have family, and die" is boring if you ask me. I'd hate to just have a bleh husband with some bleh love and some bleh sex and call that happy.
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I've always seen a relationship as the search for a life partner. You find someone that you think would be suitable and you enter a relationship to find out if you're correct about that or not. Do you think you and Dan had the potential for a lifetime, be it through marriage or otherwise?
 
Inkara1 said:
I've always seen a relationship as the search for a life partner. You find someone that you think would be suitable and you enter a relationship to find out if you're correct about that or not. Do you think you and Dan had the potential for a lifetime, be it through marriage or otherwise?
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I think we did... marriage would have been far off because that's something he isn't into... but he's a young stud, that's typical. I planned on being with him for a lifetime because, like I've said, he's all there is or ever was or ever will be for me.

I went through some extremely difficult and not-so-normal issues with him... I didn't believe in God for the longest time, and then in an attempt at suicide, Dan put himself in a coma for a week. In that week I did so much praying, "knowing" there was no God, but praying out of complete despair... when he came out of it and was ok, I knew immediately there has to be a God of some kind. I always knew I wasn't enough for him, but he constantly assured me that he needed me and would love me forever and would and could never leave me.

Anyway, I dealt with all that first out of love, and second because I thought he'd come out of it... like he'd grow up... like it would end for whatever reason... it actually ended... he started to get better... that's when he left me.

ANYWAY! As the answer, yes I thought it'd be for a lifetime... as far as I was concerned, it had to be.

Still floundering without him...
 
Seriously, I really don't understand this need so many people have to be with someone... my mother drives me nuts mooning over any guy who pays her some attention... it's painful to watch... pathetic even... and I always thought she was such a strong person. :shrug:

I don't need someone else to make me whole.
 
Aunty Em said:
Seriously, I really don't understand this need so many people have to be with someone... my mother drives me nuts mooning over any guy who pays her some attention... it's painful to watch... pathetic even... and I always thought she was such a strong person. :shrug:

I don't need someone else to make me whole.
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I went through some major ups and downs when my first love left me...I remember wondering how I'd ever get through it...but I don't ever remember thinking that I would never love again, or that I'd rather be single forever than be with someone who wasn't him...or that my life was somehow less without him...really the only issue that I had was dealing with the change from an relationship that was SO involved to suddenly being single.
 
Obviously I've never met the one Luis... I've always been happy with my own company... perhaps that's what makes the difference.
 
im at the point where i'm so comfortable with jay (been living together for over 2 and a half years, which is nothing in the long run, but a lot when you're 21) that i never really NEED to be by myself, except if my brain's doing something seriously unusual.
is that what the "one and one is one" thing means?
i once explained to jay "when i'm with you, it's like i'm by myself", and he actually knew what i meant, and knew i DIDN'T mean, "i'm with you but still so fucking lonely"
 
I think one and one is one (and I dunno if that saying even exist in english as such) means that once two individuals are complemented they become one. On the other side, some may argue that you're not complete (you're not one) unless you are complemented by another.
 
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
Two can be as bad as one
It's the loneliest number since the number one
 
Oh Lord... people who complain about being alone drive me mad! I choose my own company and when I get fed up with it I go and visit someone... :shrug:

*runs to find somewhere to hide*
 
16
With my then boyfriend
After, I said, "is that it?"

I often said shit before filtering it first. I sometimes still do. :rolleyes:
 
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