What are the symptoms...

Gato_Solo

Gato_Solo

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of choking agent poisoning?

1. Pinpointed pupils
2. Runny nose
3. Coughing
4. Lungs filling with fluid
5. Death

How do you get these?

Stay in an area that has the agent present.

Read this and discuss...Just deal with the facts as presented..including the 5 I've listed.
 
i'll go with this bit of the article:
They will be hunting for a possible common thread.

The troops who have come down with pneumonia were geographically dispersed and came from different military units, officials said.

The cases also occurred periodically over five months, rather than all at once.

[army spokeswoman Lyn] Kukral said no infectious agent such as a bacterium or virus has been discovered to be common to all the cases.

"We have no evidence to indicate that there are chemical or biological weapons or environmental toxins involved."
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unless someone is very organised and they can locate a common bacterialogical cause then it looks like coincidental natural causes. they got plenty of bio/chem weapons experts in the country looking for weapons who will know all about this sort of stuff so i'm sure a couple or three will get borrowed to do some looking,
 
Gato_Solo said:
of choking agent poisoning?

1. Pinpointed pupils
2. Runny nose
3. Coughing
4. Lungs filling with fluid
5. Death

How do you get these?

Stay in an area that has the agent present.

Read this and discuss...Just deal with the facts as presented..including the 5 I've listed.
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all the sand that they've been breathing in not having been enured to it all their lives?
 
A desert environment can exacerbate respiratory problems.
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In Arizona, they have an ailment called Valley Fever. It's caused by a parasite that lies dormant until the season changes, as I understand it. Pretty much everyone who lives there at least a year gets it. I believe you only get it once, but I could be wrong. Symptoms can mimic anything from a mild cold (most people) to life threatening pnuemonia. My case was like the flu. If you are dispsosed toward asthma or other respiratory problems in the first place you're more likely to get a more serious case. I wonder if this could be something related. Note that you are at war, Gato (despite the "end of hostilities" pronouncement) and you should always opt for the highest level of paranoia you can sustain. :D
 
Leslie said:
all the sand that they've been breathing in not having been enured to it all their lives?
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I've been breathing it with no ill affects. So have all the people who are here. Military doctors, for all the crap they get, are pretty knowledgable on the diseases of the area, and, like the article says, no biological cause has been found. That leaves only one thing, unless they find something later. As for the "chemical/biological weapons experts", they haven't looked everywhere yet.
 
I know my brother came back from Iraq back in 92 with some funky stuff, alot of guys from his unit too. Birth defects in kids afterwards, lots of medical problems. :shrug:
 
we've had guys here fighting long in the courts for 'gulf-war' syndrome with limited success. i think a recent case not so long back was supposed to give them hope of compensation but i can't recall it very clearly.
 
Whatever what? If people are sick then you can't possibly claim that everyone is doing fine. Seems pretty straight-forward to me.
 
a13antichrist said:
Whatever what? If people are sick then you can't possibly claim that everyone is doing fine. Seems pretty straight-forward to me.
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Whatever, dude. :rolleyes:
 
gato my question is this. the human body is known be somewhat resilient. with that in mind i doubt it comes in to play but do you suppose with what youve been exposed to before(i dont know too much about your past) could be something that comes into play? also what about the shots people in the military get to try to prevent diseases and such?
 
Obviously this is evidence of a vicious chemical weapons attack which is used to decimate at least 1 out every 100,000 troops.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Obviously, you two know nothing about this thread, so I'm through responding to idiocy.
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How about responding to freako104 ,seems to be a reasonable question.During the first couple days when the units were pushing to Baghdad and they said they hadn't slept in 48+ hrs ,I thought to myself ,this can't be healthy.There are way to many variables to jump to the chemical theory first.Are the individuals use to going without sleep,how about the stress of coming under fire(I now all units are prepared ,but not all may have actually been fired upon/attacked.) Are the units Based(stateside) where they could be aclimatized to the heat, cali/florida as opposed to Washington state or alaska.
 
freako104 said:
gato my question is this. the human body is known be somewhat resilient. with that in mind i doubt it comes in to play but do you suppose with what youve been exposed to before(i dont know too much about your past) could be something that comes into play? also what about the shots people in the military get to try to prevent diseases and such?
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Interesting but for one thing, freako. The US hasn't tested their chemical munitions on humans for at least 40 years, and coming into contact with those chemicals accidentally while training is even more unlikely. Aside from a chemical attack, which we know hasn't happened, it leaves some theories.

1. Those few who were affected came through contaminated areas without knowing.

2. The few who were affected found something hidden without knowing what it was and became affected.

3. The few who were affected were somewhere they shouldn't have been and were affected.

Of those 3, the third is the most likely, simply because of the amount of 'souveniers' that have been intercepted. ;)
 
Gato_Solo said:
Of those 3, the third is the most likely, simply because of the amount of 'souveniers' that have been intercepted. ;)
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Any of these "souvenirs" possibly destroyed by depleted uranium (U-238) shells or is the US military not using them anymore?

I'm not sure if freako was referring to testing of munitions on soldiers ?but i.e. smoking,drug use,alcoholism ,living under power lines,living downwind of Nuke plant etc...At least thats how I took his comment.
 
Gato_Solo said:
Interesting but for one thing, freako. The US hasn't tested their chemical munitions on humans for at least 40 years, and coming into contact with those chemicals accidentally while training is even more unlikely. Aside from a chemical attack, which we know hasn't happened, it leaves some theories.

1. Those few who were affected came through contaminated areas without knowing.

2. The few who were affected found something hidden without knowing what it was and became affected.

3. The few who were affected were somewhere they shouldn't have been and were affected.

Of those 3, the third is the most likely, simply because of the amount of 'souveniers' that have been intercepted. ;)
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thanks for answering that gato even after saying you wont respond anymore to stupidity. but you know my question was a legit one not one to make you look bad nor the military look bad. im thinking either one or three are the most likely adn like you 3 is more liekly
 
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