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We don't start fights when we know the rules. This is a street brawl. There are no rules.
 
But the job of the president is to protect the welfare of the American people. Doing nothing and being attacked more because of it, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Americans on American soil, wouldn't be protecting the welfare.
 
Gonz said:
We don't start fights when we know the rules. This is a street brawl. There are no rules.
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So basically you are saying fuck the rules and international law?


Inky while Ill agree I dont know that wed be attacked again. They may or may not have. they may have targeted someone else. They are less likely to now BUT who is to say they wont retaliate for our attacks on them?
 
freako104 said:
So basically you are saying fuck the rules and international law?


Inky while Ill agree I dont know that wed be attacked again. They may or may not have. they may have targeted someone else. They are less likely to now BUT who is to say they wont retaliate for our attacks on them?
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Nope. But we all know that sanctions and negotiations don't work with fanatics. They didn't work against Hitler...they didn't work against Milosevic...and they won't work against terrorists. How many lives must be ended for you to see that?
 
I dont want lives ended. so Id say go for the least body count possible. and to me war would be a higher body count
 
freako104 said:
I dont want lives ended. so Id say go for the least body count possible. and to me war would be a higher body count
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Depends, freako. So far, this 'war' has cost less lives so far than any war in modern history. You also seem to have the 'naive' notion that all people respect life. People only respect their own life. When it comes right down to it, yours doesn't matter as much as theirs, and the only thing keeping them from ripping you to shreds is the underlying belif that you feel the same way. :shrug:
 
Professur said:
Not according to Keats.
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Great poets lead one, of two, types of life.

1. Sheltered, with no outside influences deemed as 'evil' for their time.
2. A life of suffering.

Which did Keats live?
 
Gato_Solo said:
Depends, freako. So far, this 'war' has cost less lives so far than any war in modern history. You also seem to have the 'naive' notion that all people respect life. People only respect their own life. When it comes right down to it, yours doesn't matter as much as theirs, and the only thing keeping them from ripping you to shreds is the underlying belif that you feel the same way. :shrug:
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humans are, by nature, selfish. though I hate that part of it
 
the terrorists did yes. they attacked us in a time of peace and took out 3000 innocent lives that day. But what your saying basically is hit them first and attack them before they attack us. the problem with that is that it makes us the bully doesnt it? I am not saying do nothing. But if we are to start something like this and as you said no rules we can do whatever we want. that lowers us to their level doesnt it
 
So we could stay above their level by using diplomacy... wait, that won't work, they aren't about to agree to anything with us unless it's us agreeing to remove ourselves from the planet or convert to their religion and system of government and economics.

So we could stay above their level by doing military airstrikes to take out their bases... wait, that won't work, their bases are in the middle of crowded civilian areas.

So we could stay above their level by engaging in hand-to-hand combat with their soldiers on the battlefield... wait, that won't work, you can't tell their soldiers from Joe Six-Pack on the street, and the street is their battlefield of choice.
 
Inkara1 said:
So we could stay above their level by using diplomacy... wait, that won't work, they aren't about to agree to anything with us unless it's us agreeing to remove ourselves from the planet or convert to their religion and system of government and economics.

So we could stay above their level by doing military airstrikes to take out their bases... wait, that won't work, their bases are in the middle of crowded civilian areas.

So we could stay above their level by engaging in hand-to-hand combat with their soldiers on the battlefield... wait, that won't work, you can't tell their soldiers from Joe Six-Pack on the street, and the street is their battlefield of choice.
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I think freako wants us to go Swordfish on them...Would lessen the body count, wouldn't it?
 
That was one of Travolta's better parts. Seems he's really found his niche playing the villian. Or anti-villan.
 
Gato_Solo said:
I think freako wants us to go Swordfish on them...Would lessen the body count, wouldn't it?
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while the idea is good and I would like it I highly doubt it would work IRL.


I liked him in Pulp Fiction and Get Shorty. He also did well in the Punisher. so I agree he is good as a villian
 
freako104 said:
if we are to start something like this and as you said no rules we can do whatever we want. that lowers us to their level doesnt it
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I'll try to explain the obvious. We, the United States , are a country. Our military wears a flag of our country on their uniform. Both things show unity & cohesion & fall under the umbrella rules of the Geneva Convention.

The terrorists wear bed linens & big flufffy hats. So do the average Muhammeds.

Now for the test:
Who said there are no rules?
 
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