Bobby Hogg
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I was wondering about the "gay marriage" issue too. Being gay isn't a choice.
What is personal responsibility?
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Bobby Hogg
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Gato_Solo said:
As far as I am aware, no genetic marker of homosexuality has been confirmed.
Even there was, there's no reason to think there would be only a single factor. Additionally, the scope of human sexuality is wide enough to mean that it's probably affected by a combination of environmental conditions, social factors and biological heritability.
Bobby Hogg
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Gato_Solo said:
Well, that's not what I said. I said it could be a combination of things, not necessarily dependent on a single genetic factor.
It could be a biochemical trait that arises during development because of environmental influences, for example.
Can you choose who you are attracted to?
Gato_Solo
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Bobby Hogg said:
But when you remove the genetic component, all you have left is the psychological.
BH said:
Ahh...so now it's a side effect of something. You know you're digging yourself in deeper, right?
BH said:
Yes, you can, for the most part. Just stay away from 'beer goggles', and you'll see what I mean.
Bobby Hogg
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Gato_Solo said:
That's not true. The role genetics plays in sexual attraction is unclear, that's all I am saying. Without knowing the exact physiological pathway of sexual attraction it's hard to say what could affect it. In fact, we aren't sure how much genetics contributes to personality at all.
You can't "train" someone not to be gay, either. People try to hide their sexuality because of the reaction of society.
Gato_Solo said:
That's not what I said, again. Could be that if your mother's womb is 1 degree of temperature higher than normal, some aspect of development is altered that results in a biochemical pathway producing an opposing effect. Theoretically.
Or the genetic component of sexuality could be based on random recombination events.
That said, there is clearly a strong social influence on what people find attractive. You can see that in how what constitutes "attractive" changes in art and media over time.
Gato_Solo said:
I don't think you can make a conscious choice of who you are attracted to, gay or straight.
I've suffered from "beer goggles" before, but it's never made me horny for a bloke.
Winky
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The hell it don't
I gots the 'right' to discriminate
anyway I God dammed well please!
"fat bottomed girls
make the rockin' world go round"!
I gots the 'right' to discriminate
anyway I God dammed well please!
"fat bottomed girls
make the rockin' world go round"!
Gato_Solo
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flavio said:
It's not about legislating who somebody is attracted to. It's about validating that attraction. Back 30 years ago, when homosexual acts were considered a crime, and homosexuality was considered a mental abberation, most who claimed to be homosexual kept it to themselves. They knew what they were doing was illegal and would give them jail time in worst-case scenarios. They chose to keep quiet, rather than risk their freedom. Now that homosexuality is no longer listed as a mental illness, it seems that the homosexual folks have decided that heterosexual people are the abberations, so they must do what they can to disrupt what we have in order to validate their lifestyle.
Bobby Hogg
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Any good reason why homosexuality should be illegal or why anyone should have to hide it?
The very fact that homosexuality has existed throughout history (and throughout the entire natural world, for that matter) shows that it is here to stay. It's not a threat to our existence. I do not see what anyone achieves by trying to force homosexuals to suppress their sexuality.
The very fact that homosexuality has existed throughout history (and throughout the entire natural world, for that matter) shows that it is here to stay. It's not a threat to our existence. I do not see what anyone achieves by trying to force homosexuals to suppress their sexuality.
catocom
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http://www.otcentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=455944&postcount=11Bobby Hogg said:
Bobby Hogg
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catocom said:
Not as far as I know. Sodomy covers oral and anal sex too, as far as I know, so it'd be no fun if it was.
Gato_Solo
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flavio said:
Once again, you try to link two totally incompatible items to prove your point. Find another comparison, because what you describe is a male-female relationship...the way nature intended, and not the male-male, or female-female, relationship that is striving for validation and acceptance.