Unlike the leftists, conservatives deem those undesirable who actually commit a heinous crime. If you're poitically confused or socially different, you can stick around.
After all, we need examples, slaves & designers.
Without Bush to kick around
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Unlike the leftists, conservatives deem those undesirable who actually commit a heinous crime. If you're poitically confused or socially different, you can stick around.
After all, we need examples, slaves & designers.
randomJACKASS
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Cerise
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I believe it has something to do with one standing by and apathetically supporting the decisions of an oppressive government until one by one all your rights are gone.
See, mjs said he wouldn't mind seeing me go to the "death panel." Of course, the next day it may be the people that are genetically predisposed to drug addiction or suffer from mental illness.
Cerise
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It clearly states that a consultation is mandatory every 5 years, and more often if there is a significant change in the health of an individual, including admission to a nursing home.
randomJACKASS
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See, mjs said he wouldn't mind seeing me go to the "death panel." Of course, the next day it may be the people that are genetically predisposed to drug addiction or suffer from mental illness.
Are you really that thick?
Dictionary.com said:
You see that was exactly what I was making fun of. If someone told you Obama was quitting smoking, from what I have seen of you it would not surprise me one bit if you took that to mean tobacco will soon be banned in this country. Jesus! Stop taking everything (including yourself) so freaking seriously! I assure you none of us take you seriously even maybe when we should because you have such an active exaggerating paranoid imagination in your postings!
randomJACKASS
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If I thought for a minute that all these death panel bullshit stories had anything to them I'd be freakin' more pissed than you who believe that nonsense. I just am not that paranoid anymore, and life is so much more enjoyable sans unreasonable paranoia.
Oh yeah, and Cerise, I wish you nothing but all that I would want for myself in this life. I'll let you come up with your own paranoid interpretation of what that means!
Oh yeah, and Cerise, I wish you nothing but all that I would want for myself in this life. I'll let you come up with your own paranoid interpretation of what that means!
Consultation means what it says ... what are your wishes? "Do you want to be kept on life support indefinitely?" This is living will stuff and should be done anyway, but isn't talked about.
WTF do you think it is?
spike
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No Cerise, it clearly nowhere states that they are ever mandatory. You're not reading what is right in front of you.
It says they are authorized every 5 years. That means they are allowed every 5 years if you want them. because they are optional.
Read your own quotes.
If they're optional, why is there a time limit?
spike
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What time limit. Every 5 years you have the option to have the counseling. You can't have it daily.
WTF is so hard about this Gonz?
Every 5 years you have an option to have counseling. It's really not that difficult to grasp if you try just a little.
randomJACKASS
Banned
All you people worried about "rationing" and "death panels" are basically either ignorant of the current system, paranoid, or plain stupid! The only hope you have if you, even in middle age, develop a long term costly condition is if, you either have the money to start paying cash, or to retain a good lawyer to sue your insurance company to make it do right by you.
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If that doesn't make you mad, then you are in denial of reality, or again just plain stupid. The government is not as evil as you seem to think. They want to put an end to practices like the aforementioned for our best interest.
The "evil" part of government is you fools who keep feeding peoples paranoia along with your own by buying the insurance lobby's line of horse shit! The evil is that our system allows lobbyists to essentially buy your congressmen!
We need to stop fighting health care reform!
We need to fight for tort reform!
We need to fight for reform of our lobbyist special interest driven congress!
OK, now back to your ignorance and paranoia....
Evil Government Website (that is not lying) said:
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If that doesn't make you mad, then you are in denial of reality, or again just plain stupid. The government is not as evil as you seem to think. They want to put an end to practices like the aforementioned for our best interest.
The "evil" part of government is you fools who keep feeding peoples paranoia along with your own by buying the insurance lobby's line of horse shit! The evil is that our system allows lobbyists to essentially buy your congressmen!
We need to stop fighting health care reform!
We need to fight for tort reform!
We need to fight for reform of our lobbyist special interest driven congress!
OK, now back to your ignorance and paranoia....
I'll type this slowly so you don't miss anything.
It's not their job.
20,000 over 5 years. A big number. Question is, in relation to how many paid claims...20,000 out of 45,000,000 is statistically insignificant.
Ain't dat the troof
Much better.
What do you suggest?
That's what we're trying to do. Unfortunately, we keep getting called stupid, nazis, morons, etc. Power to the people only when it's what you believe in?
spike
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It is their job to protect the citizens.
Who said all that? I seem to remember you wanting to ignore what the majority of the people want pretty often. Including if the majority want healthcare reform.
It looks like you gave up on the mandatory death panel nonsense at least though.
randomJACKASS
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I suggest that lawsuits against doctors have hard and fast limits to damages one can sue for. There also needs to be mechanism to review lawsuits for actual merit, before they can even be tried.
Much more emphasis needs to be put on suspending revoking licenses to practice, and gross incompetence should be a criminal matter, rather than a get rich quick scheme.
You can clearly see what I thought about the rest of your post.
randomJACKASS
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What the hell is that supposed to mean? You are a proponent of tort reform, what do you think about the general concepts I just commented on?
What would you suggest?
Is it just that you are afraid to agree with me on general principal?
I have always been quick to point where I agree with people who are normally my political opponents. Some others here have shown that ability too. I have almost never seen you admit to agreeing with anything someone who you normally disagree with says. Why is that?
randomJACKASS
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Wait, there was another thing to address.
Preposterous!
Statistically insignifigant? That is until it happens to you or one of yours! You aren't very thorough in you statistics. You don't account for this being data compiled from just three companies. You don't account for the vast majority of paid claims being ones that the insurance company can settle cheaply and still keep those premiums rolling in. You also don't count all the probably 100K that they tried to weasel out of but could not! You are looking at only what you want to see that supports your narrow minded view of the situation and telling us that 20,000 people who got fucked over because of legalese, and the predatory practices of the company that is supposed to be protecting, is STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT?
I hate myself for this, but all you folks with this attitude, I hope rescission, hits close to home!
Preposterous!
Statistically insignifigant? That is until it happens to you or one of yours! You aren't very thorough in you statistics. You don't account for this being data compiled from just three companies. You don't account for the vast majority of paid claims being ones that the insurance company can settle cheaply and still keep those premiums rolling in. You also don't count all the probably 100K that they tried to weasel out of but could not! You are looking at only what you want to see that supports your narrow minded view of the situation and telling us that 20,000 people who got fucked over because of legalese, and the predatory practices of the company that is supposed to be protecting, is STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT?
I hate myself for this, but all you folks with this attitude, I hope rescission, hits close to home!
spike
New Member
Cool, keeping them safe from the leading threats to their lives definitely falls under the former.