Obama cohort trial to start Monday

spike

New Member
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky." - Bill Clinton

One of these quotes is an opinion and one is a lie. Can you tell which is which?


What's your point? Does Clinton's statement have anything to do with this topic at all?

She's still a nutcase.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
No, the message is wrong because the messenger distorted it,

Where is the distortion?

mangled it,

Please point out the mangled portion of the article.

lied about it,

Please point out, with citation, where the lies are.

or made it up.

So the bill, and Obama's support for it does not really exist at all.

That's funny because Obama believes it exists.

From Obama's own website
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
king selectively literal does not believe in such things when they come from the side of the aisle that is not the one he favors.

Our side of the aisle would never come up with such a mess as this. We are not for global governance. We are not for global taxation. We are not for strengthening the power of the UN. We are not for redistribution of the wealth of the United States to foreign nations.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
king selectively literal does not believe in such things when they come from the side of the aisle that is not the one he favors.

By the way, here is the skinny from Obama's own website.

http://obama.senate.gov/press/071211-obama_hagel_can/

Obama, Hagel, Cantwell Introduce Bill to Fight Global Poverty
Tuesday, December 11, 2007
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Amy Brundage (OBAMA), Jordan Stark (HAGEL), Ciaran Clayton (CANTWELL), or Derrick Crowe (Rep. SMITH)

Legislation would aim to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) have introduced the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. Representatives Adam Smith (D-WA) and Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House in September.

“Eliminating global poverty remains one of the greatest challenges we face, with billions of people around the world forced to live on just dollars a day,” said Senator Obama. “We can – and must – make it a priority of our foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter, and clean drinking water. As we strive to rebuild America’s standing in the world, this legislation will not only commit to reducing global poverty, but will also demonstrate our promise and support to those in the developing world. Our commitment to the global economy has to extend beyond trade agreements that are more about increasing corporate profits than about helping workers and small farmers everywhere.”

“Poverty, hunger, and disease will be among the most serious challenges confronting the world in the 21st century,” Senator Hagel said. “This legislation provides the President of the United States the framework and resources to help implement a comprehensive policy to reduce global poverty. It is the human condition that has always driven the great events of history. This is a responsibility of all citizens of the world.”

"America needs to do more to help the 1.1 billion men, women and children throughout the world living on less than $1 a day by helping promote sustainable economic growth and development," said Senator Cantwell. "We need to do more to save lives in the poorest countries. The U.S. needs to implement a real plan to combat poverty on a global scale while also addressing the national security risks extreme poverty creates."

“Arguably no greater problem faces the world than global poverty. Nearly 2.7 billion people live on less than $2 a day and close to a billion people live on less than $1 a day. We have a moral obligation to craft an overall U.S. strategy to decrease global poverty and eliminate extreme global poverty. After introducing this measure in the House for the past several years, I was pleased to see it pass this year with overwhelming bipartisan support. This bill’s Senate introduction is a significant step toward it becoming law,” Representative Adam Smith said.

For years, America has committed to improving the lives of the world’s poorest people. In 2000, the U.S. joined more than 180 countries at the United Nations Millennium Summit and vowed to reduce global poverty by 2015. We are halfway towards this deadline, and it is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day.

The Global Poverty Act:

  • Declares it official U.S. policy to promote the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of cutting extreme global poverty in half by 2015.
  • Requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to carry out that policy.
  • Includes guidelines for what the strategy should include - from aid, trade, and debt relief, to working with the international community, businesses and NGOs, to ensuring environmental sustainability.
  • Requires that the President’s strategy include specific and measurable goals, efforts to be undertaken, benchmarks, and timetables.
  • Requires the President to report back to Congress on progress made in the implementation of the global poverty strategy.

This legislation is supported by a broad range of groups, including Bread for the World, CARE, Oxfam America, Habitat for Humanity International, National Wildlife Federation, Sierra Club, United Church of Christ, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Borgen Project, United Methodist General Board of Church and Society, RESULTS, and Micah Challenge USA.
 

paul_valaru

100% Pure Canadian Beef
It's about your posts in general, I have long ago stopped clicking on the links you post, I live close enough to farm land to see what you are selling without having to do it online.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
Oh and by the way, what's with this from the Obama website?

http://obama.senate.gov/press/071211-obama_hagel_can/

This legislation is supported by a broad range of groups, including Bread for the World, CARE, Oxfam America, Habitat for Humanity International, National Wildlife Federation, Sierra Club, United Church of Christ, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Borgen Project, United Methodist General Board of Church and Society, RESULTS, and Micah Challenge USA.

I don't hear any of you leftists out there screaming about all of these religious organizations being involved in this legislation. Where is the outrage over this blatant violation of "separation of church and state" when it is your side they are supporting?
 

2minkey

bootlicker
Oh and by the way, what's with this from the Obama website?

http://obama.senate.gov/press/071211-obama_hagel_can/



I don't hear any of you leftists out there screaming about all of these religious organizations being involved in this legislation. Where is the outrage over this blatant violation of "separation of church and state" when it is your side they are supporting?

what leftists? the ones in your imagination, that you continually prop up so that you have something to point at?
 

spike

New Member
Our side of the aisle would never come up with such a mess as this. We are not for global governance. We are not for global taxation. We are not for strengthening the power of the UN. We are not for redistribution of the wealth of the United States to foreign nations.

No you'd rather waste our wealth in farce wars and give it to Israel than help poor people. Good for you.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
No you'd rather waste our wealth in farce wars and give it to Israel than help poor people. Good for you.

Ah, yes, we wouldn't want to give any of our money to those evil Jews, now, would we? They are taking over the world and they must be stopped, right?
 

SouthernN'Proud

Southern Discomfort
Napolean XIV said:
Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees
And begged you not to leave
Because I'd go berserk?
Well. . .

You left me anyhow
And then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I've gone
Completely out of my mind
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

You thought it was a joke
And so you laughed
You laughed when I had said
That losing you would make me flip my lid
Right. . .

You know you laughed, I heard you laugh
You laughed, you laughed and laughed
And then you left
But now you know I'm utterly mad!
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the happy home
With trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

I cooked your food
I cleaned your house
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind, unselfish loving deeds?!!
Hah. . .

Well you just wait
They'll find you yet
And when they do they'll
Put you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

To the happy home
With trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

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jimpeel

Well-Known Member
It's about your posts in general, I have long ago stopped clicking on the links you post, I live close enough to farm land to see what you are selling without having to do it online.

Ah, so there it is. <fingers in ears screaming "La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la">

Then why don't you simply stop responding to me if you have nothing upon which to base your opposing contentions? I shall do likewise after this post as there is nothing to talk about if you fail to glean the information provided.

Good-bye.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
No, the other 3 are adding their own opinions. Guess you didn't notice that.

That is what opinion pieces are about -- the opinion of the author. Guess you didn't notice that.

Was the Obama webpage merely an opinion piece also?
 
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