Prop 19: Marijuana Legalization Gets its Number in California

[spike]

Ok, mark Winky down as a vote for alcohol, pot, and sex for your daughters.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

I'm not surprised you want that for my young daughters, living human beings. That you would extrapolate that from winky's post, and then twisting it to support pedophilia in an effort to harm me. -- Sorry pal, it didn't work.

I can't help but to notice the efforts you make to harm me using my drug abuse history, and even better, that you have made repeatedly attempted to use my young daughters as tools to harm me. Again, I'm not surprised, either are they. Although, I have had explain your methods and tactics with my 7 y/o, she has gained considerable knowledge about you and your type of hypocritical lefty. She was a little confused by your post here. She said "thats not true, he's lying about us" The TWo older ones generally see you clearly on their own.

Yeah, your psychopathology clearly indicates you're every bit a fuck-wad lying scum. But we already know this don't we.



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Looks fun!

 

[spike]

I'm not surprised you want that for my young daughters, living human beings.

I'm not surprised you would make something up and try and attribute what Winky said to me.

That you would extrapolate that from winky's post, and then twisting it to support pedophilia in an effort to harm me.

Yes, I successfully read Winky's post.

"They should be in a continual pot and alcohol induced stupor
while having lots of unprotected promiscuous sex."

I'm sorry that you feel like a victim because of his post.

I can't help but to notice the efforts you make to harm me using my drug abuse history

I can't help but notice that you feel like a victim when I ask about your admitted drug history while you repeatedly call me a doper with zero evidence.

and even better, that you have made repeatedly attempted to use my young daughters as tools to harm me.

Hmmn.. you made up something that ever happened to further act like a victim. Poor guy.

It would be interesting to see your multiple examples where I used your daughters as tools. Someone should psycho analyze this tendency to play the victim card over fictional stuff all while making personal attacks in every post and consistently being the biggest troll on the board. It's an odd type of delusion.

She was a little confused by your post here. She said "thats not true, he's lying about us"

Sounds pretty misguided. Ask her to point out specifically any lies about them that I wrote. It would be interesting to analyze this type of thinking in someone so young.

Unless you made that up too.

Looks fun!

Is that one of their science projects? I would suggest that judges see this type of project a little too often.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Is that one of their science projects? I would suggest that judges see this type of project a little too often.

No, not really. They may have seen it once.



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Funny, you want a big central government, you got it.

DENVER — A pot grower won't be allowed to use Colorado's medical marijuana law to fend off federal drug charges.

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Brimmer said that suggestions by the White House that the U.S. government wouldn't pursue pot cases in states that allow medical marijuana cannot be used as a defense on federal drug charges.

AP Story

Big government controls are always right, right?

It's going to be funny when you get caught with pot that wasn't grown and approved by the FDA/DEA. Your buddies home grown will suddenly become a felony to possess.

Seems the grower market won't be open to everyone, just a select few big-buck insiders.

lamo, stupid liberals.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Smoke pot, be hip, kill innocent Mexicans daily.

TIJUANA, MEXICO - To embattled authorities here, where heavily armed soldiers patrol the streets and more than 500 people have been killed this year, marijuana is a poisonous weed that enriches death-dealing cartel bosses who earn huge profits smuggling the product north.

"Marijuana arrives in the United States soaked with the blood of Tijuana residents," said Mayor Jorge Ramos, whose police department has lost 45 officers to drug violence in recent years.

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Marijuana smuggling and sales represent a roughly $10 billion business for Mexico's drug mafias

liberals selfish indulgence kills.

Wow!, just look at all those M-203's and various grenades flowing over from the United States citizens!
(Tax paying citizens anyway).


Getting high is soooo cool!

 

[spike]

Big government controls are always right, right?

No.

Seems the grower market won't be open to everyone, just a select few big-buck insiders.

Yeah, we should probably make sure that isn't the case.

Smoke pot, be hip, kill innocent Mexicans daily.

Good point. Legalizing it will take it out of the hands of the cartels. A major plus.

People should bring this up as an argument for lagalization more often.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

No.

LOL, your a firm believer and promoter of the nanny state. Wait to see what it all means for your "legal pot".

Yeah, we should probably make sure that isn't the case.

You would have to read past the "legalize marijuana" part of the law to understand that ALL pot would have to medically approved. The people behind the the prop19 have this market legally cornered already.

Good point. Legalizing it will take it out of the hands of the cartels. A major plus.

People should bring this up as an argument for lagalization more often.

Your kidding right? You believe that taxes and federal regulations will kill the black market. LMAO. It will however increase the penalty for black market: home-growers, distributors and possession in the US.



I'll reiterate my feelings on the issue: I'm OK with pot/drugs in a a nation with less government and no entitlements.If one is willing to live by their own choices and expect nothing. In the nanny state of big government where people expect to be taken care of, the conditions you have worked so hard to create, pot should be illegal....and I assure you it will be illegal in most cases for your Socialist Utopian Society.

Smoke up spike, it couldn't damage you anymore than it already has.

 

[spike]

LOL, your a firm believer and promoter of the nanny state. Wait to see what it all means for your "legal pot".

No, I'm in favor of freedom. You are in favor of government control here. That makes you the believer and promoter of the nanny state.

You would have to read past the "legalize marijuana" part of the law to understand that ALL pot would have to medically approved.

Not seeing that anywhere. Even if true more freedom if it passes then if not.

Your kidding right? You believe that taxes and federal regulations will kill the black market. LMAO. It will however increase the penalty for black market: home-growers, distributors and possession in the US.

The black market will be there but will be seriously diminished. There's still black market alcohol.

I'll reiterate my feelings on the issue: I'm OK with pot/drugs in a a nation with less government and no entitlements.

Irrationally different than alcohol. Stick with that, no matter how little sense it makes.

Smoke up spike, it couldn't damage you anymore than it already has.

I don't have any drug induced damage. I can't imagine you can say the same.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Looks things are going to work out well for you then.

 

[spike]

They're working out great. Thanks!

Too bad things are going so poorly for you. Do you really need more nanny stuff to help?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Actually yes, there is something you could do for me. Keep posting your drivel until the 2012 election, it really does make a difference.

 

[spike]

You fail and you troll again. It's fun tracing these threads to see exactly where the trolling tantrum kicks in.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

I think your confused about my tantrum, it more like I'm bored with your silly blindness.

I'm just offering you the truth but you're just too smart for the truth.

 

[Winky]

Marijuana makes you smart

You Can't Handle the Truth

 

[spike]

I'm just offering you the truth but you're just too smart for the truth.

If you had any truth you would be able to debate instead of the trolling tantrum.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

When I post real world facts that you can easily verify, your "higher intellect" chooses instead to post stupid. (well, maybe its not a choice and just can't help yourself)

 

[spike]

When I post real world facts that you can easily verify

Feel free to point out any real world fact that you think is important that we haven't covered well enough. If you have anything else you think justifies your nannyism add it.

Otherwise if you have nothing worthwhile to add I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict more trolling tantrums.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Feel free to point out any real world fact that you think is important that we haven't covered well enough. .

Here you go spike. I know already we covered much of this information but you're a fucking idiot and got most all of it wrong. Here's few of the simpler facts that you'll never understand. I expect your ignorance will bring forth demands for even more refined explanations, I don't really care though because you'll still be an idiot.

Unless you can provide a study that demonstrates the pharmacodynamics/pharmacokinetics shared between ETOH/Delta9 (and related metabolites) , you might want to abandon that most ignorant approach for which you have been relying on so heavily.

As for employers, oh yeah, its kind of big deal.

....and remember this too; driving isn't a right, its a privilege.. Enjoy your public transit.

Yeah right. 'toxed' is toxed. enjoy your DUI's.

Due all the variable for what might be considered impaired, you can count on the measurement being very restrictive once it is established.

Why do think they are using pot for pain management? (Neuropharmacology )

I didn't know the Feds have legalized dope?

FDA/feds holds the reins on dope, not the state.

The way law works, you have to follow the most restrictive rule no matter which jurisdiction it comes from.

I'm going to go out on limb and guess you really don't know shit about the FDA's relationship to prescription medications.

Enjoy your underdeveloped testicles.


Yeah, pot is where stupid people come from. Especially considering it greatly affects your short-term memory, a crucial part of learning. An area where you show little to no gains.

THe cognitive impairment from long term dope smoking is not as benign as you think it is, even if you smoke just a few joints a week.

THe hippocampus stores information for short term memory which is eventually transferred to long-term memory. The problem is that cannibinoids are structurally similar to anandamide, the neurotransmitter that captures your experiences as they occur and lay them into your short term memory in the hippocampus.

So when you flood your brain with delta9 huge chunks of you life go missing as the it interferes with process of capturing memory. You now have unrecoverable data of your own life that has been lost forever. -- And if you deny this fact, you're either kidding yourself or not from this planet.

THC also artificially stimulates a part of the brain called the amygdala which a region of the brain that assigns novelty or emotional significance to objects and ideas someone encounter in their environment. -- This is significant to you.

this is what makes it so difficult for you^ to interpret social cues and social norms. Also this why you don't remember some of your "I never said that, "

Despite what some may think, dope has many bad long term physical effects on the body and mind. The long term effects on society could be compared to lead poison in the Roman days.

^ Would partially explain why you suffer so much difficulty on the forums.

Also it help to understand the relationship between the brain and eyes movement.

Heroin is the least damaging to the human body,Providing you don't kill yourself, Heroin does the least physiological damage to the human body of the FIVE of the drugs you list.

One last time...

Note yo Spike: notice I added the caveat: if you don;t kill yourself (heroin). Most heroin OD's are from the variance of strength of the street heroin, sometimes even cut with fentanyl (a common cause of OD). If heroin were legal and regulated the OD rate would be much smaller. It is a fact, herion is the least damaging drug of abuse in arena of physical damage.

Heroin can be snorted, smoked or injected, but the most damage to the body itself comes from injecting the heroin.

Pot and young people will make even more stupid grown-ups.

31 might be more appropriate for pot.

It's going to be funny when you get caught with pot that wasn't grown and approved by the FDA/DEA. Your buddies home grown will suddenly become a felony to possess.

Seems the grower market won't be open to everyone, just a select few big-buck insiders.

Smoke pot, be hip, kill innocent Mexicans daily.

How many years have you been part of this? I'm certain you didn't intend on not being part of the problem all this time.

Your kidding right? You believe that taxes and federal regulations will kill the black market. LMAO. It will however increase the penalty for black market: home-growers, distributors and possession in the US.

State tax^ ...when does uncle sam get his piece of the pie?

It's funny. do you really think they are going to stop there, this is only where it starts.

Dope is really more complex than a bag of weed and Bic lighter. Grab your bong and make it all better. Go ahead, spin and twist in the wind by posting propaganda that stoners like you, spread across the web.

 

[spike]

Due all the variable for what might be considered impaired, you can count on the measurement being very restrictive once it is established.

Why do think they are using pot for pain management? (Neuropharmacology )

So your study says it slows down responses time and motor control in some people but not others after smoking 4 joints (lol!).

So we already know that alcohol affects these things far worse so you're left without a point here.

I'm going to go out on limb and guess you really don't know shit about the FDA's relationship to prescription medications.

I know all about it. There have been some issues with the Feds with medical marijuana but it's been very successful. Passing the Prop will push the issue further. You want to clarify a point here?

this is what makes it so difficult for you^ to interpret social cues and social norms.

It looks like what you were trying to say is that some studies find marijuana to do some light damage. Of course other studies contradict that and it is certainly helpful for many.

We do know that in any case alcohol does far more damage so you're left without a point again.

^ Would partially explain why you suffer so much difficulty on the forums.

Holy shit! "Relatively subtle performance deficits" in eye movement control in reading. This is stunning.

We do know that alcohol does far more serious damage so you're left without a point again.

This might explain why you have trouble on the forums.

Heroin is the least damaging to the human body,Providing you don't kill yourself, Heroin does the least physiological damage to the human body of the FIVE of the drugs you list.

We discussed this and noticed how silly it would be to evaluate legality of drugs based on one aspect. By your logic you certainly made an argument for pot over alcohol though even if it was misguided.

Rational people would consider other factors as well.

Pot and young people will make even more stupid grown-ups.

Yes, like alcohol there should be an age restriction. Looks like we're in agreement there.

It's going to be funny when you get caught with pot that wasn't grown and approved by the FDA/DEA. Your buddies home grown will suddenly become a felony to possess.

Your link doesn't actually say anything about home gown having harsher penalties after Prop 19 at all. I don't think you read it.

Seems the grower market won't be open to everyone, just a select few big-buck insiders.

Again, you didn't read the article as the limited grow operations for medical one city they referred to was unrelated to Prop 19. Prop 19 does not limit grow operations.

It looks like you're arguing for even less restrictions here so I'm with you on that count.

Smoke pot, be hip, kill innocent Mexicans daily.

How many years have you been part of this? I'm certain you didn't intend on not being part of the problem all this time.

I've never been a part of that. I imagine your meth dealings probably killed some people or ruined some lives huh?

You do bring up a god point that legalizing would seriously curtail the cartels. Bonus.

It will however increase the penalty for black market: home-growers, distributors and possession in the US.

It looks like you made that up since your links don't look like they back you up on that.

State tax^ ...when does uncle sam get his piece of the pie?

It's funny. do you really think they are going to stop there, this is only where it starts.

It's not clear what you're trying to say here....You'd like uncle sam to get more tax money in the Prop. And who's not stopping where with what?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

I'll say I am getting the exact response from I would expect from you: completely selective and dismissive in honor of the drug you covet. It's a common practice with dopers, don't feel bad. (I'm sure you won't)

Thanks for your concern about my health, It took some time and effort but I physically and emotionally recovered nicely from my addiction. Unfortunately there are many who will never recover.

Funny thing; back in my day, my area was the meth capitol of the world. It all came from here. Then the fucking illegal Mexicans came in took my job, now they own it all.

Do you ever XTC spike? -- It used to be legal you know.