Climate change natural says new study

jimpeel

jimpeel

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Like I said ... the list keeps growing

Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport

U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007
Senate Report Debunks "Consensus"

Report Released on December 20, 2007

U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee (Minority)

INTRODUCTION:

Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.

The new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP Ranking Member details the views of the scientists, the overwhelming majority of whom spoke out in 2007.

Even some in the establishment media now appear to be taking notice of the growing number of skeptical scientists. In October, the Washington Post Staff Writer Juliet Eilperin conceded the obvious, writing that climate skeptics "appear to be expanding rather than shrinking." Many scientists from around the world have dubbed 2007 as the year man-made global warming fears "bite the dust." (LINK) In addition, many scientists who are also progressive environmentalists believe climate fear promotion has "co-opted" the green movement. (LINK)

This blockbuster Senate report lists the scientists by name, country of residence, and academic/institutional affiliation. It also features their own words, biographies, and weblinks to their peer reviewed studies and original source materials as gathered from public statements, various news outlets, and websites in 2007. This new "consensus busters" report is poised to redefine the debate.

Many of the scientists featured in this report consistently stated that numerous colleagues shared their views, but they will not speak out publicly for fear of retribution. Atmospheric scientist Dr. Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, author of almost 70 peer-reviewed studies, explains how many of his fellow scientists have been intimidated.

"Many of my colleagues with whom I spoke share these views and report on their inability to publish their skepticism in the scientific or public media," Paldor wrote. [Note: See also July 2007 Senate report detailing how skeptical scientists have faced threats and intimidation - LINK ]

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chcr

chcr

Too cute for words
jimpeel said:
Okay, what are you implying? I give links, not cryptic messages.

Like THIS.
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:yawn: Seek professional help. Really.

I was agreeing with you. The story of Paul Revere is largely a lie made popular by the poem by Longfellow. Every schoolchild knows that Paul Revere warned that "the British are coming" when in fact, he did no such thing.

I'm reasonably certain that virtually every other person who posts on this forum understood the reference.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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chcr said:
:yawn: Seek professional help. Really.

I was agreeing with you. The story of Paul Revere is largely a lie made popular by the poem by Longfellow. Every schoolchild knows that Paul Revere warned that "the British are coming" when in fact, he did no such thing.

I'm reasonably certain that virtually every other person who posts on this forum understood the reference.
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Paul Revere was one of several riders on that night.

Perhaps you should read up a bit HERE which details his ride HERE.

In 1774 and the Spring of 1775 Paul Revere was employed by the Boston Committee of Correspondence and the Massachusetts Committee of Safety as an express rider to carry news, messages, and copies of resolutions as far away as New York and Philadelphia.

On the evening of April 18, 1775, Paul Revere was sent for by Dr. Joseph Warren and instructed to ride to Lexington, Massachusetts, to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them. After being rowed across the Charles River to Charlestown by two associates, Paul Revere borrowed a horse from his friend Deacon John Larkin. While in Charlestown, he verified that the local "Sons of Liberty" committee had seen his pre-arranged signals. (Two lanterns had been hung briefly in the bell-tower of Christ Church in Boston, indicating that troops would row "by sea" across the Charles River to Cambridge, rather than marching "by land" out Boston Neck. Revere had arranged for these signals the previous weekend, as he was afraid that he might be prevented from leaving Boston).

On the way to Lexington, Revere "alarmed" the country-side, stopping at each house, and arrived in Lexington about midnight. As he approached the house where Adams and Hancock were staying, a sentry asked that he not make so much noise. "Noise!" cried Revere, "You'll have noise enough before long. The regulars are coming out!" After delivering his message, Revere was joined by a second rider, William Dawes, who had been sent on the same errand by a different route. Deciding on their own to continue on to Concord, Massachusetts, where weapons and supplies were hidden, Revere and Dawes were joined by a third rider, Dr. Samuel Prescott. Soon after, all three were arrested by a British patrol. Prescott escaped almost immediately, and Dawes soon after. Revere was held for some time and then released. Left without a horse, Revere returned to Lexington in time to witness part of the battle on the Lexington Green.
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jimpeel

jimpeel

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Gato_Solo said:
You mean he didn't finish his ride? :devious:
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Actually, no, he didn't.

Soon after, all three were arrested by a British patrol. Prescott escaped almost immediately, and Dawes soon after. Revere was held for some time and then released. Left without a horse, Revere returned to Lexington in time to witness part of the battle on the Lexington Green.
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PrincessLissa

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jimpeel said:
For the same reason you are so willing to believe whatever is told you.

I don't believe all that is told to me. I understand that the temp of the world has only gone up 1 degree on average in the last 10 years. I understand that people are jumping on this "green" bandwagon because Leo DiCaprio did and not understanding what they are truley doing. I thought that I had said that. Did you read that?

What I don't get (other than the reasoning the Prof gave, which is a very good one) is why it is such a big deal to convince everyone to stop their efforts. Some of us are making a true effort wihtout listening to all the hype. Some of us are not just blindly following this GW bandwagon and ignoring the political issues that face our world. Again, I thought I had said that too...hmm...funny how one only reads what they want to.

If people want to make a concious effort to tread lightly on the earth as all of the enviro issues we face are ultimatly linked, why bother them? As long as we aren't boosting our own career on Oprah and have an agreement with Toyota to sell more hybrid cars, I am not sure what the big deal is.

I do the things that I do not because I was told and I mindlessly followed. I do the things I do because using less is a guarenteed way to help our problems on the earth whether they are natural or man made. Who is going to tell me that using less gas is wrong because there is no such thing as man made GW? If GW is natural, what is wrong with me trying not to add to it?

I am not arguing the study. There very well could be truth to the study. Everything we know as fact to this day has had more than one theory behind it. Remember when people were convinced the earth was flat? I am only trying to figure out why the agenda to convince everyone that nothing needs to be done about GW is so important. Even if the temp of the world rises only one degree every 10 years. In 500 years, that is going to be serious. Why are you trying to tell me that "crossing that bridge if/when we come to it" is the best policy?"
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markjs

markjs

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Err on the side of caution!

No disclaimers about if if it's inconvenient for me or it takes 1% of my paycheck to save the future!

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!

They may be platitudes, but they ain't any less true.....

It's grade school stuff really people....

And same should go for conservatives cuz I guess y'all do attend the same schools as the human race does for some odd reason....
 
ResearchMonkey

ResearchMonkey

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markjs said:
Err on the side of caution!

No disclaimers about if if it's inconvenient for me or it takes 1% of my paycheck to save the future!

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!
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Yeah, like that always works out for the better.







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Ya first need to know what you dealing with before you try and fix it.
 
markjs

markjs

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It's a good point RM, but we may not have the time to figure it out before it's too late. Personally, I could say; "well hell I'll be dead before it would even matter so fuck it", like many here are more than content to do, but I believe that would be wrong. Basically all I can do is drive a fuel efficient car if possible (motorcycle for now) and put the recycling in the right bin. If everybody was willing to do a tiny part things wouldn't be so scary.

Fact is the ruling class would potentially lose money over it, and the common man might have to pay a pittance more in tax for something he doesn't understand, and we are all to attached to "me, me, mine, more, more, faster!"

It's the American way, and it's about played out....

Watch and see....
 
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