Indoctrination 101

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No, I am just a perfectionist and an idealist, some days more than others. I like to be clear. You like to throw insults to the wind it seems to me, but on this board your¹ philosophy prevails in the power structure. I have to tread more lightly. This is also characteristic of your type¹

¹ the collective "you" or "your"

Make it 5!
 
It's one thing to teach facts ... another to teach opinions.

Like I said, it's common to teach different points of view. Sometimes they even only teach one point of view as in "abstinence only". Shit there's even some schools out there teaching that wacky creationism.
 
I have no problem with teaching an opinion ... as an opinion. Teaching an opinion as a fact (IE: the gov't job is to look after us, eating meat is wrong, it's ok to be gay) is where I draw the line. Particularly when they're already complaining that they don't have enough time to teach the basics
 
I have no problem with teaching an opinion ... as an opinion.

So I guess we'd have to see whether any schools that are teaching this are doing it as opinion or not. Also whether the schools teaching creationism and abstininence only are teaching it as opinion.
 
The government take care of us? The government's job is to take care of the corporation, maximize profits, enslave the working class, keep the peace, and help us become extinct before anyone can stop it!

I find it strange that you would turn to an organization like that to control every little aspect of your life, or are you just assuming that they will only control your neighbor's life and leave you alone? In which case, I wonder why you hate your neighbor's freedom.
 
Tides Foundation-Leftists. No interest in capitalism & Constitutionally mandated republic.

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As a foundation that facilitates funding for a range of non-profit groups, conservative think tanks and groups have criticsed the Tides Foundation as part of their campaign to 'defund the left'.

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Point 1 - She is obsessed with her stuff. Obsessed? Sounds like she needs therapy.

annecdote - Ten years tracking our stuff? What must her carbon footprint look like?

Point 2 - Why is everything a crisis? A system in CRISIS?!?!?! Oh, because we're running a linear system on a finite planet. Stuff is gonna run out. RUN FOR YOU R LIFE!!!! It's interacting with the real world. Well, yea, that's where the finite planet comes in. Heaven knows, we're almost out of I-POD material.

Point 3 - People. Wait a minute, unless we return to an agrarian system, we're gonna have to have plants & mills & retailers & construction & other stuff just to allow the people to eat & have a roof over their head.

Point 4 - A tank to symbolize the government? "...increasingly in our own". Yep, the USA isn't known for it's humanitarian aid or for it's freedom or for it's Constitution. We're known for our military empire, especially since "over 50% of our tax money going to our military". Assuming that statement is correct (which I don't), the military is a constitutionally mandated federal expense. Bailouts aren't.

Point 5 - "It's the governments job to watch out for us, to take care of us. That's their job.". No, it's not. We are a nation built on individual liberty, personal sacrifice & limited government. Their job is to stay out of our way. Which leads to the next point....

Point 6 - The corporation is bigger than the government. Is that a problem? Do we need bloated government? I'd hope our freedom would allow individuals to grow their companies as big as possible, even surpassing the government. Companies employ people. They provide goods & services. They help the free market stand & thrive.
None of which can the government provide. Well, maybe jobs, but do you really want to employ about 2.7 million civilian employees? (a 2005 U.S. Census number according to ask yahoo)

So the government kisses the ass of the corporations? That is bad. So, instead of damaging or weakening the companies, let's fix the government, and keep them out of each others pocket.

Natural resource EXPLOITATION/trashing the planet.

We're not ever 3 minutes into the video.

The message
has some points. Unfortunately, it's written & produced in such a anti-capitalist, anti-American way that it does nothing but belittle our system.

Those of you who prefer the old way,
are cordially invited to go live in caves. Everything we've done in the last 150 or so years, has improved the lives of humans in every single way.
 
Everything we've done in the last 150 or so years, has improved the lives of humans in every single way.

You know, that's exactly right. The world is a better place to live than it has ever been before. So why do you suppose that so many self-styled conservatives are so very, very angry and so anxious for the end to come? Not that the other fringe doesn't have it's full share of nut jobs, mind you. I suggest stepping back from the edge myself. It's much saner here.
 
he thinks that a religious school is the same as a public school.

chic, all we're asking is for the gov't to return to its origins & get the fuck out of our way.
 
I don't think those kids had much of a choice. Probably less than the kids in the public school. You know fear of hell or something.
 
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