Justice Souters replacement

Gonz

Gonz

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Not the one on the left.
 
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valkyrie

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

Where did you see that Hilary Clinton will be Souder's replacement?

Or is this who you think will be a good replacement? ????
 
randomJACKASS

randomJACKASS

Banned
Re: Justice Souders replacement

You should be glad if Bill was the guy. It's so funny how conservatives hate him so much. Politically he is moderate or even somewhat right wing as Democrats go. I guess it's the fact that even after all the scandals manufactured by the republicans and far right, he still left office with an approval rating higher than old Ronnie Ray-gun....
 
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valkyrie

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

randomJACKASS said:
You should be glad if Bill was the guy. It's so funny how conservatives hate him so much. Politically he is moderate or even somewhat right wing as Democrats go. I guess it's the fact that even after all the scandals manufactured by the republicans and far right, he still left office with an approval rating higher than old Ronnie Ray-gun....
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True that, my man... true that. I know many a democrats who were horribly disappointed in Bill Clinton as a president because they said he was too conservative for their tastes. I thought he did a good job, as far as politicians go.

This last president though... we've got a lot of damage control to do, and a lot of repairs to this country. Ugh.
 
Gonz

Gonz

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

The inside track points to Mrs Bill. Just watch.

Damage control? GW did some dumb domestic stuff but it'll pale in comparrison to the damage Obama does.
 
Frodo

Frodo

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

randomJACKASS said:
You should be glad if Bill was the guy. It's so funny how conservatives hate him so much. Politically he is moderate or even somewhat right wing as Democrats go. I guess it's the fact that even after all the scandals manufactured by the republicans and far right, he still left office with an approval rating higher than old Ronnie Ray-gun....
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He's not qualified since he has been disbarred.
 
Frodo

Frodo

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

As to Obama's replacement, it will be a wash. One totalitarian socialist replaced by another.
 
Frodo

Frodo

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

2minkey said:
you guys never lay off the drama, do yas?

and yet you still expect to be taken seriously?
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You're right. Just because a bunch working class dolts in Conneticut lost their homes so the government could give the land to a realestate developer and the Supreme Court said that was legal, doesn't mean that will happen to you personally, right? Now, go back to sleep. Nothing here to concern an accomplished Academia nut such as yourself.
 
2minkey

2minkey

bootlicker
Re: Justice Souders replacement

yeah, you're right. i never will understand all the wacky totalitarian oppression going on right under my nose. or perhaps, i understand it perfectly, as me and me's co-elites vigorously violate the rights of innocent cat-calling blue collar troglodytes. see, sugarpie, we can all be drama queens.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

These assholes want Obama to appoint someone who is not even a judge. Maybe Angela Davis, or Joan Baez, or Pete Seeger would be good choices. My personal favorite would be Sasheen Littlefeather.

These are dangerous times we are living in.

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Senators Urge Obama to Look Outside the Box, Beyond the Bench for High Court Nominee
With Supreme Court Justice David Souter retiring this summer, Democrats in particular say the vacancy is an opportunity for President Obama to diversify the high court -- not just by choosing a woman or minority justice, but a candidate with a resume that includes something other than years on the bench.

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Sunday, May 03, 2009

Not white. Not male. Not a career judge.

Those were just some of the criteria senators outlined Sunday as they discussed their hopes for the next Supreme Court justice.

With Justice David Souter retiring this summer, Democrats in particular said the vacancy is an opportunity for President Obama to diversify the high court -- not just by choosing a woman or minority justice, but a candidate with a resume that includes something other than years on the bench.

They seemed to echo Obama's own stated preference for a nominee who demonstrates "empathy" for ordinary people and relies on more than "abstract legal theory" in making decisions.

"I would like to see more people from outside the judicial monastery, somebody who has had some real-life experience, not just as a judge," Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said on ABC's "This Week."

Sen. Arlen Specter, who this past week announced he was switching his party affiliation from Republican to Democrat, said the next Supreme Court justice need not be a judge, or even a lawyer.

He told NBC's "Meet the Press" that he hopes Obama will bypass the federal appeals court, historically the breeding ground for Supreme Court nominees, in his search. He said the president could choose a "statesman or stateswoman" for the position instead.

"I would hope that he would look beyond the Circuit Courts of Appeals which now populates the Supreme Court and pick someone with a greater world experience and diversity," Specter said, noting that the sitting justices have "lives and experiences which are all very similar."

"It would be good to get people who know something besides wearing a black robe," Specter said.

He said women, Hispanics and African-Americans need to be better represented on the high court.

Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, also said the court needs more women and minorities.

Obama said Friday he wants Souter's successor seated by the start of the next court term in October. He apparently has already tossed around names of possible nominees with his advisers -- analysts say he'll probably look for a woman, since Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the only woman on the high court.

His pick would not shift the ideological balance of the court, since Souter mostly voted with the court's liberal wing. This raises the question of whether Obama would reserve his political capital for another day and hold off on sending to the Senate a controversial nominee.

Conservatives on Sunday expressed resignation to the likelihood that Obama would pick a liberal nominee, but warned that the president should not overstep.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said he worries the president is sending signals that he wants an activist on the court. (Gee. Ya think? -- j)

"He's also said that a judge has to be a person of empathy. What does that mean? Usually that's a code word for an activist judge," Hatch said on "This Week." "But he also said that he's going to select judges on the basis of their personal politics, their personal feelings, their personal preferences. Now, you know, those are all code words for an activist judge, who is going to, you know, be partisan on the bench."

Hatch said he hopes Obama chooses "somebody of great dimension."

"We all know he's going to pick a more liberal justice. Their side will make sure that it's a pro-abortion justice. I don't think anybody has any illusions about that," Hatch said. "The question is, are they qualified?"

Hatch said Obama will have a "slam dunk" if he picks somebody "center-left like Souter."

"I have no illusions about President Obama appointing a conservative like Alito or Roberts and so forth," Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said on CNN's "State of the Union." "But if he will appoint a pragmatist, someone who is not an ideologue, that someone is not just going to light all the lightbulbs in America on the left, I think that would be good for the country. ... I hope he is going to be careful in this appointment."

Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., also warned against picking a so-called activist judge.

"Our courts have been turning the legislative branch at the state level as well as at the federal level upside-down because too many of them actually want to become legislators instead of just justices," (How very true. -- j) he told "FOX News Sunday."
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jimpeel

jimpeel

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

Jefferson saw this coming:

"At the establishment of our Constitutions, the judiciary bodies were supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government. Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions nevertheless become law by precedent, sapping by little and little the foundations of the Constitution and working its change by construction before any one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be trusted for life if secured against all liability to account." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823. ME 15:486
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"To consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions [is] a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men and not more so. They have with others the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. Their maxim is boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionem [good justice is broad jurisdiction], and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:277
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Gonz

Gonz

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

Oops...given his track record, does he deserve to have his name spelled correctly?

Jefferson saw it coming? Hell, you needn't get past Marbury vs Madison to see who wants the power.
 
Gonz

Gonz

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Re: Justice Souders replacement

randomJACKASS said:
It's so funny how conservatives hate him so much. Politically he is moderate or even somewhat right wing as Democrats go.
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Blowing in the wind does not a good President make. Moderate means wishy-washy. Right of modern day democrats means left of damn near everyone. Crap, right of republicans, these days, means left of our history.
 
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