Seven broken promises in less than two minutes

[Cerise]

If they'd wanted to kill the top echelon of the gvt...they would've aimed at the white house first, followed by the pentagon and /or senate, instead of hitting the twin towers thus lowering their chances of approaching Washington.

That they aimed at the TRADE towers meant that they were after disrupting the financial (TRADE) centers first and foremost.

White House target of Flight 93, officials say

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. officials said Thursday captured senior al Qaeda leader Abu Zubaydah has told them hijacked United Airlines Flight 93 was intended to hit the White House on September 11.

 

[Cerise]

Probe reconstructs horror, calculated attacks on planes

WASHINGTON -In the days since four planes that took off as commercial flights came crashing back to earth as terrorist missiles, investigators have been able to weave together a vivid picture of what happened in the Northeast skies on Sept. 11.

 

[Frank Probity]

That look was the harbinger of the demise of radical Islam in Iraq. I'm not surprised, however, that you didn't "get" it.

Well, most of us got it. And what most of us got was the simple fact, Iraq was not the enemy we needed to fight. And we figured it out before the invasion took place. Radical Islam, al Queda, and the Taliban were the real enemy. America had no business invading Iraq. If President Bush had been the leader and military tactician his die hard supporters want to believe he is, he would have maintained focus on Afghanistan and finished the job at hand. By invading Iraq, he significantly reduced efforts to eliminate the real enemy. America had al Queda nearly down and out and we let them slip through our fingers when we entered into an unnecessary second war with Iraq. And by changing direction and not paying full attention to Afghanistan, President Bush gave al Queda and the Taliban the opportunity to regroup. When they reorganized, they returned in greater numbers, struck with greater cunning and more disciplined fighters.
And so that war lingers on and will continue to do so for several more years according to military experts.

 

[MrBishop]

White House target of Flight 93, officials say

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. officials said Thursday captured senior al Qaeda leader Abu Zubaydah has told them hijacked United Airlines Flight 93 was intended to hit the White House on September 11.

Again... if the PRIMARY target was the GVT Echelon, the twin towers wouldn't have been targeted at all. Hitting the UN would've been a 'better' target.

 

[MrBishop]

The funny part is you believe Bush is both an evil mastermind and a total moron. How do you deal with the cognitive dissonance created by such a position?

No no...Bush is still a moron. Cheney is the mastermind. Don't give Bush credit where it isn't due

 

[Cerise]

Boooooosh!!!!.......

Psst! "Congressional Authorization."

 

[2minkey]

No no...Bush is still a moron. Cheney is the mastermind. Don't give Bush credit where it isn't due

i know i've fairly consistently maintained that bush is a dimwit.

 

[chcr]

Some of you people act like they didn't know (or couldn't have found out) where the "top echelon of the United States government" actually was at the time. Honestly!

 

[jimpeel]

I'll have to put some thoughtification into the matter.

Besides Cerise I am sure you think such an inside job was fully justified being as your boy no way gonna get a second term and maybe not finish the first the way he was going at that point.

Fully one third of America suspects some amount of US complicity in the 9/11 attacks. Fully 90% think there was some sort of cover up by the government. You are the minority of radical neoconservative that is in the minority here. As we all know generally where there is smoke, there is fire. I honestly do believe if you knew it was an inside job you'd think it was the right thing for them to do.

Do some contemplatification on that!

Do you actually listen to Alex Jones; or did you just Google that and end up with one of the most radically bullshit patriot mythology sites available on any media anywhere?

 

[Frank Probity]

Psst! "Congressional Authorization."

YEP !! Based on prevarication.
Been proven the trinity (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld) manipulated information, tossed in a few lies and a touch of deceit when dealing with congress, America and the world in order to achieve their goal. And did so knowingly. But what the heck, that is as good a reason as any to sing praises to the president and his cronies.

 

[jimpeel]

And this information came from where? Your imagination?

Common knowledge. The plane that crashed into the field in PA was thought to be on the way to ram the White House. Read the link at Cerise's POST #61.

Do you really know the plan and why Cheney was whisked away to a secret underground bunker?

Preservation of the head of government in case Bush was killed. Again, common knowledge.

Did you know that there is one member of the Cabinet that is "whisked" away to a secret location while the State of the Union address is being held? Again, to preserve the government and, again, common knowledge.

 

[jimpeel]

Again... if the PRIMARY target was the GVT Echelon, the twin towers wouldn't have been targeted at all. Hitting the UN would've been a 'better' target.

Unless, of course, the attacks were supposed to have been simultaneous but didn't come off as planned.

 

[MrBishop]

Unless, of course, the attacks were supposed to have been simultaneous but didn't come off as planned.

Regardless. Let's say that you have 4 rocks and 100 windows.
You know what's behind the windows.
You pick your windows ahead of time and try and break them all.

There are a lot of better targets than the world trade towers if you're trying to hit politicians.

If you're trying to destabilize a country... you hit 'security' first and foremost.
Where do people look when they talk about their security?

Health, money, law, home (family), gvt.

(Health) Taking out a hospital is a good target. Poisoning a water-supply is better.
(money) Banking and trade centers. The NYSE would've been a good target, the TT was as well (*as a plus.it's highly visible)
(law) Courthouses, police stations, firehalls
(home/family) Attacking a school is a good target.
(GVT) - in your case that'd be White House, Senate, Pentagon, UN building)

Some are easier to hit. Money (the almighty dollar) seems to have been the primary target (remember, they did use 2 'rocks' on one institution..with a hit on the White House and/or Pentagon as icing on the cake.

If GVT was the primary target, there would've been two 'rocks' heading towards the White House, one to Pentagon and one to a secondary target (finance, health, family..pick one).

 

[Gonz]

YEP !! Based on prevarication.

I suppose the Congrressional leaders that are part of the National Security committees went along with the evil twisted plans of Bushco?

Iraq had been a problem for over a decade. It was time to end that charade. As for Afghanistan...a few training camps in a vast desolate desert is so valuable. I'm still not sure why Afghanistan was chosen. Saudi Arabia has much better oil.

 

[Frodo]

Regardless. Let's say that you have 4 rocks and 100 windows.
You know what's behind the windows.
You pick your windows ahead of time and try and break them all.

There are a lot of better targets than the world trade towers if you're trying to hit politicians.

If you're trying to destabilize a country... you hit 'security' first and foremost.
Where do people look when they talk about their security?

Health, money, law, home (family), gvt.

(Health) Taking out a hospital is a good target. Poisoning a water-supply is better.
(money) Banking and trade centers. The NYSE would've been a good target, the TT was as well (*as a plus.it's highly visible)
(law) Courthouses, police stations, firehalls
(home/family) Attacking a school is a good target.
(GVT) - in your case that'd be White House, Senate, Pentagon, UN building)

Some are easier to hit. Money (the almighty dollar) seems to have been the primary target (remember, they did use 2 'rocks' on one institution..with a hit on the White House and/or Pentagon as icing on the cake.

If GVT was the primary target, there would've been two 'rocks' heading towards the White House, one to Pentagon and one to a secondary target (finance, health, family..pick one).

OMG!!! If Bish is right, then that means that innocent people were the prime target!!!! That really pisses me off!!! Oh, wait a minute. The left said that they deserved it. Never mind.

 

[Cerise]

YEP !! Based on prevarication.
Been proven....

Do you have any proof to back up your statement?

 

[MrBishop]

OMG!!! If Bish is right, then that means that innocent people were the prime target!!!! That really pisses me off!!! Oh, wait a minute. The left said that they deserved it. Never mind.

The target, yes..the goal, no.

The goal is to cause instability in the target country.
Terrorism makes people afraid, people force the GVT to over-react, the actions of the GVT cause instability.

An opponent that is off-balance/unstable is the easiest to defeat. If Judo taught me one thing, it's that balance is everything.

 

[Frank Probity]

Common knowledge. The plane that crashed into the field in PA was thought to be on the way to ram the White House.

The magic word, "thought." Good solid proof there. So much for "common knowledge."

Did you know that there is one member of the Cabinet that is "whisked" away to a secret location while the State of the Union address is being held? Again, to preserve the government and, again, common knowledge.

It was more than one person and for an extended period of time that was and still is not "common knowledge."

 

[Professur]

Comical, totally comical.


Perhaps the trade centre was ..... nothing more than a rallying cry for the muslim radicals to show that the US isn't invunerable. It was't intended to ruin the economy. It wasn't intended to strike fear in the hearts of Iowa farmers. Indeed, any effect on US soil would likely be little more than incedental. Choice of the towers .... because it couldn't be hidden. Attack on the Pentagon .... couldn't have been expected to disrupt military work. Even I know that most of the pentagon is underground. But outside the US, it shows that someone struck at the preceived heart of the Us military strength.

The media circus thereafter with people suffering shock years later might be the big story here, but for the perps and their leaders ... that's little more than icing on the cake.

 

[BeardofPants]

*agrees with prof
*goes off to wash herself