Socialism = Communism

[Gonz]

So does that make America communist?

Huh? We are capitalist & people like me are the ones trying to avoid the socialism trap. The day people learn to vote themselves money is the day he system begins collapsing.

 

[freako104]

Wow, I'm sorry I missed this one. Not much to add, just a few points.

If I remember college philosophy correctly Marx argued that yo get to communism a society had to go through two transitional stages first.

1) Capitalism.
2) Socialism.
and then
3) Communism.

So does that make America communist?

Also I've heard people say that communism sounds good on paper...I they are dead wrong because of one of of Marx's ideals. Marx states that after once all the infrastructure of a society is built, i.e. the roads, buildings, factories, etc, the need for innovation disappears and the workers will then be around to only maintain what has already been deveolped. I for one would not want to live in that world, even on paper.

I learned we use different philosophies that blend all but we are predominantly capitalism. but we use some socialism and some communism ideas too.

 

[rrfield]

Huh? We are capitalist & people like me are the ones trying to avoid the socialism trap. The day people learn to vote themselves money is the day he system begins collapsing.

I replied way too late on this, which is my bad, I hadn't been to the site in a while...

...but you were claiming earlier that if a country is socialist they were in effect communist because socialism, accoring to Marx, is a setpping stone towards communism. Well capitalism is also a setpping stone towards communism according to Marx, so does that make America communist?

but I was too late on this one so just consider me background noise for this thread

 

[Gonz]

Capitalism isn't the stepping stone,it's the beginning point. Marx was an avid anti-capitalist.

 

[freako104]

didnt Marx say it all dwindles down to communism or something like that?