Vista sucks...RLY

MrBishop

MrBishop

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So...can't get online with my Vista machine..why, you ask?
Dunno..and neither does anyone else that I know.

Using an ADSL modem, I can "As evidenced here" go online with no issue on my old XP machine.
With Vista...well, my ISP says that I'm connected (My ADSL modem with their service) - so, it's not the modem. Dell says that it's not the cable, nor the 10/100 card... and MS wants several hundred dollars to help me out, which I ain't sparing them.

From what I understand...the ADSL modem doesn't need drivers, cause it's not USB. I can't find drivers for the 10/100 card anywhere.

Thinking of upgrading to XP.

Any advice?
 
Professur

Professur

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Alright, let's simplify. What ADSL modem? You have to use the PPPOE drivers of the OS?

At worst, you can piggy back your Vista machine to your XP by sharing the network connection, but that's just silly.
 
Winky

Winky

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ew ew ew pick me pick me I know I know I know
I have solved this issue thousands and thousands of times rly!
 
MrBishop

MrBishop

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Professur said:
Alright, let's simplify. What ADSL modem? You have to use the PPPOE drivers of the OS?

At worst, you can piggy back your Vista machine to your XP by sharing the network connection, but that's just silly.
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It's a GNet.... nuthin' special.
The PPPOE is setup.
ipconfig gives me my info...no problems
I get 100% lost packets on any pings.
My 'dialer' gets me to checking user and p/w and hnngs..then stops...giving me error 815 / 619 / 828 alternativly.

No router in play..no wireless... though that'll come eventually.
 
Professur

Professur

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To start, disable all MS firewall and AV bullshit. Vista is rampant with user protective stupidity.

Who's your provider? Usually they'll walk through the 99 top setup faux-pas with you as par for the course support.
 
randomJACKASS

randomJACKASS

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Professur said:
To start, disable all MS firewall and AV bullshit. Vista is rampant with user protective stupidity.

Who's your provider? Usually they'll walk through the 99 top setup faux-pas with you as par for the course support.
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I've seen both Norton and McAfee shut down connections inexplicably. Norton's firewall used to be ZoneAlarm and that thing would shut down connections for years and I don't think they ever fixed that POS.
 
Winky

Winky

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Is there a statically assigned IP address
on the : Internet Protocol version 4 (TCP/IPv4)
on the Ethernet connection?

Does this setting differ from the XP box that can surf?

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MrBishop

MrBishop

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Ink: Ethernet only..
Wink:The IP address and DNS isn't static. It varies per login..."Get automatically" I'll check the XP box's settings tomorrow...today's a holiday, so Ihave family time all day...minimal net-access. Just on to check a parade route.
Prof: The Firewall's off...I have to check the A/V settings.
 
randomJACKASS

randomJACKASS

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If it is a Norton (Symantec) or McAfee firewall that is the problem, turning it off will achieve nothing because those programs don't actually turn off. You'd have to uninstall completely.
 
Winky

Winky

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Do not follow the above listed advice unless you are ready to
rebuild the network protocol stack via de-installing and re-installing
the device driver for the Ethernet card. As you are not able to ping,
the above listed advice portrays a complete ignorance of basic
network troubleshooting or a lack of reading comprehension, or both.

MrBishop said:
It's a GNet.... nuthin' special.
ipconfig gives me my info...no problems
I get 100% lost packets on any pings.
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Firewalls operate above the IP layer.

PPPoE also

Correct the flippin’ nic issue PLEASE!!!

Get on AIM or YIM and I’ll fix it fer ya!
I am the Gawd of the interwebbies thingie!
 
Mirlyn

Mirlyn

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Can you ping the IP address it gives you? How about the gate? How about the DNS servers?

Sure the pppoe session is active?
 
MrBishop

MrBishop

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Sorry ...will revisit this tomorrow. Today was a hellova day, so no net time avaialble.
I'll copy/paste the text i(Errors + IPCONFIG) nto word and sneaker-ware it to the other machine and post here.
*Gotta love USB drives :)

I secured my XP CD with SP1, should it come to having to upgrade back to XP :p
 
randomJACKASS

randomJACKASS

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Winky said:
Do not follow the above listed advice unless you are ready to
rebuild the network protocol stack via de-installing and re-installing
the device driver for the Ethernet card. As you are not able to ping,
the above listed advice portrays a complete ignorance of basic
network troubleshooting or a lack of reading comprehension, or both.



Firewalls operate above the IP layer.

PPPoE also

Correct the flippin’ nic issue PLEASE!!!

Get on AIM or YIM and I’ll fix it fer ya!
I am the Gawd of the interwebbies thingie!
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Regardless, I can't tell you how many times I have reinstalled drivers and reset NICs and "netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt" only to have to deal with one of those POS firewalls because those things are garbage, but by all means if you have one of those firewalls chase your tail a while in the vain attempt to believe those things are any good.
 
MrBishop

MrBishop

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Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
Description: Intel(R) 82562V 10/100 Platform LAN Connect
Physical Address: 00-19-D1-37-B9-A2
DHCP Enabled: Yes
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address: 169.254.130.174
IPv4 Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0
IPv4 Default Gateway:
IPv4 DNS Server:
IPv4 WINS Server:
NetBIOS over Tcpip Enabled: Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address: fe80::e4ae:56b:31e:82ae%9
IPv6 Default Gateway:
IPv6 DNS Servers: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1, fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1, fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

Tunnel Adapter Local Area Connection *6
Media State…Media Disconnected
Tunnel Adapter Local Area Connection *7
Media State…Media Disconnected
Tunnel Adapter Local Area Connection *10
Connection specific DNS Suffix:
Link Local IPV6 Address….fe80::5efe:169.254.130.174%10
Default Gateway…..

Pinging myself: All good
 
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