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ResearchMonkey
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Gonz, you need to kick winky's ass and teach that geek a lesson about now. 
ResearchMonkey
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Sony's the shit IMHO. You have to go into the +$60K specialty cameras to beat their systems.
Did you make any DVDs with your friend?
Cerise
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Never let a good crisis go to waste!
Oh, hell I forget: who was it here that used to say "the sky is falling, the sky is falling??
catocom
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well, I just heard that they are using electricity for the water pumps.
They are saying they are working on running another electric line in for the pumps.
Definitely they need to rethink their 'system' there.
catocom
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Which is why I'm asking the question. You still haven't answered it. Bish came a lot closer. You've decided to be a smacktard. However, it's worked against you since you are still not on the same page, thus, you seem incapable of answering the question.
Neither the tsunami nor the 9 point oh magnitude quake directly created the current issue. A lack of sustainable electricity did. My question stands. why can't a power plant that is in need of a constant stable flow of power to maintain a safe & less-than-lethal atmosphere use it's own created juices?
An internal set of adjusted transformers could provide all the power needed to run the cafeteria, the office, the bathrooms & the fucking cooling mechanisms. Jesus man, it's as close as you can get to perpetual motion as possible. I don't need to understand fission to understand a power generator.
You mentioned expense. I presume you mean that the cost of having a "grounding rod" that would disipate this kind of change? Expensive? Yea. I bet it's a whole lot less than the cost of 6 reactors.
In the end, the quake started a chain reaction (no pun intended) that has an entire nuclear energy facility on the brink of becoming a dirty bomb. The men & women that are currently risking their lives are heroes. It appears they may solved this, but at what cost? A closed circuit power system, could have saved a lot of trouble. It's too late for Fuck-u-Shima but not for many others. It seems that coastal plants can't use diesel.
Winky
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I presume you mean that the cost of having a "grounding rod" that would disipate this kind of change?
You win
Your understanding of even basic physics is so deficient that I bow to your abject ignorance.
There is no way in hell you can speak on this or any other subject that even vaguely
relates to a real world physical process.
For your next unintellectual exercise perhaps you can expound on macroeconomics?
You win
Your understanding of even basic physics is so deficient that I bow to your abject ignorance.
There is no way in hell you can speak on this or any other subject that even vaguely
relates to a real world physical process.
For your next unintellectual exercise perhaps you can expound on macroeconomics?
2minkey
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same as it ever was.
2minkey
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MrBishop
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The grid was the grounding rod you speak of, Gonz. Having an emergency backup grid would be like wiring everything twice, I suppose. (Wiring to more than 1 million homes) Off hand, it'd probably be a hellovalot more expensive than the power station....and if that grid went down at the same time as the primary, you'd still be fucked. Let's just say that it's not in the cards.
The plant was running off of it's own power with the necessary transformers, but even these can only go so far. Much like a local neighbourhood transformer will go BANG if the line is hit by lightning, the plant's transformers would've gone BANG when faced with that much power.
The moment the tsunami destroyed all those home and businesses, took down power-lines, neighbourhood transformers etc... the grounding wire (grid) got a lot smaller really fast. The grid can be fixed, but not fast enough.
Take it from me...an ice storm 13-odd years ago did less damage to the grid. but I was still without power for close to 3 weeks, as was much of Quebec, with chunks of Ontario, New York and Vermont being out for a few days.
I understand power grids & generation. Thanks anyway Bish, at least you're working within the scope of my point. Electromagnetism can increase or decrease the voltage with simple windings. My question about the grounding rod was to Winkys incoherent statement about it needing somewhere to go. Of course, he's too smart to lower himself & explain what he really meant.
Winky...the tsunami washed around the plant. It was hardly a 75' wall of water. I'd have to hope the generators weren't sitting out in the open (on the back deck).
You guys are all looking at the picture from the wrong angle. What I'm after could also be said about coal plants or natural gas plants, except they aren't going to create Godzilla if they fail to have power. An underground(?), internal power grid, just for the plant, using the same steam to generate the same electricity as teh whole grid. The difference is, if a tower outside gets knocked down, causing the larger grid to disappear, it won't affect the internal grid, allowing for a controled shutdown of the system. Hell, steam can be released without harming the atmosphere, so some generation can continue at a much lower volume. It matters not what the nuclear process is. I'm looking at controlling an internal system which removes the need for an outside source (diesel generation)
Winky...the tsunami washed around the plant. It was hardly a 75' wall of water. I'd have to hope the generators weren't sitting out in the open (on the back deck).
You guys are all looking at the picture from the wrong angle. What I'm after could also be said about coal plants or natural gas plants, except they aren't going to create Godzilla if they fail to have power. An underground(?), internal power grid, just for the plant, using the same steam to generate the same electricity as teh whole grid. The difference is, if a tower outside gets knocked down, causing the larger grid to disappear, it won't affect the internal grid, allowing for a controled shutdown of the system. Hell, steam can be released without harming the atmosphere, so some generation can continue at a much lower volume. It matters not what the nuclear process is. I'm looking at controlling an internal system which removes the need for an outside source (diesel generation)