A Sad Day in Iraq...

They said it was clear. A guy twitched...consistent with the last words heard before teh gunshot..."Fuck, He's faking it, he's faking being dead". Sounds like reasonable action by the Marine, especially given the circumstances.
 
Gonz said:
They said it was clear. A guy twitched...consistent with the last words heard before teh gunshot..."Fuck, He's faking it, he's faking being dead". Sounds like reasonable action by the Marine, especially given the circumstances.
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Now we come to the meat of the matter...why was he faking? Could it be that he was afraid they'd shoot him (which they did), or was he trying to evade capture (which he wasn't)? Either way, he was wounded and lying in a room with at least 3 marines, a camera-man, and a reporter, and they couldn't muster enough force to capture him? Something stinks in this.
 
Gonz said:
They said it was clear. A guy twitched...consistent with the last words heard before teh gunshot..."Fuck, He's faking it, he's faking being dead". Sounds like reasonable action by the Marine, especially given the circumstances.
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So an unarmed injured man twitched or spasmed in the vague direction of the marine and was shot at point blank range...

And you think THAT is reasonable?

As Gato says the very fact the man in question felt the need to "feign death" should tell you something about the American adherance to the Geneva rulings... like... they're not maybe!
 
Yes. If you've been following the actions of the illegal combatants, it is very reasonable.

Gato...Ka-BOOM!!!! No more Marine, no more camera man, no more inbedded reporter...
 
So a kick in the head wouldn't surfice?

Hell... if the daft fuck had been caught on camera giving this bloke a sharp kick surely it would be the lesser of two evils than blowing him away?

Besides... there isn't a "just incase" or "except where the guy flinches and may have 6 pounds of semtex strapped to him" clause in the rulings for being obliged to take POW and offer medical aid to those that are injured.
 
ClaireBear said:
So an unarmed injured man twitched or spasmed in the vague direction of the marine and was shot at point blank range...

And you think THAT is reasonable?

As Gato says the very fact the man in question felt the need to "feign death" should tell you something about the American adherance to the Geneva rulings... like... they're not maybe!
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Ummm...In some armies it's called either cowardice or desertion ;), but it works. Also...feigning death is against the Geneva Convention as well. It makes it more likely for combatants to 'desecrate' corpses. It doesn't make right what the Marine did, but it also doesn't make right what the insurgents are doing...:shrug:...bottom line is...follow the rules, and that will end any 'unneccesary' suffering on both sides.
 
I understand that the Arabs, generally, misuse universal surrender signs. Not only are they breaking many GC rules (described in my first post) but they tend to play games with their tanks too. A backwards facing main gun portends surrender in tank speak. They come close under that guise & then open fire. If the game isn't played fair & square, it makes a for an uglier win.
 
I'm curious...

Where do the Geneve Convention watchers stand on this?

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A car bomber rammed a U.S. convoy Wednesday north of Baghdad
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That happens almost every day & often, multiple times per day.
 
Gonz said:
They said it was clear. A guy twitched...consistent with the last words heard before teh gunshot..."Fuck, He's faking it, he's faking being dead". Sounds like reasonable action by the Marine, especially given the circumstances.
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if a corpse is twitching it is the nerves. It does not mean he is alive
 
freako104 said:
if a corpse is twitching it is the nerves. It does not mean he is alive
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wrong.
That's one thing that distinguishes human from other animals.
When a human is "dead" there are no reflexes like in animals.
(Humans DON'T move if they are dead)
 
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A car bomber rammed a U.S. convoy Wednesday north of Baghdad

Thirty-one officers abducted on way back from Jordan,

It just needs a middle-ground rewrite instead of a more RW writeup.

A gerry-rigged explosive device strapped to a car got close enough to a US Convoy to detonate its bomb, effectivly cutting off reserves of food, fuel and ammo to advancing American Troops. *Cutting off supply-trains are par for the course for warfare...an army lives on its stomach.

Thirty-one officers captured by Iraqi troops on their way back from Jordan.
 
There were imbedded reporters in WWI WWII and 'nam. They were under military control and everything that they wrote got 'approved' and 'cleaned' by the Military before it got to Joe & Jane Civilian.

Couldn't have the wrong impression given about allied troops, now could we?
 
catocom said:
wrong.
That's one thing that distinguishes human from other animals.
When a human is "dead" there are no reflexes like in animals.
(Humans DON'T move if they are dead)
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actually there can be. Dont believe me? Cut off someones leg. Out of nature it will start walking. The brain kills off the rest but the Nerves actually go to the spinal cord.
 
If he's twitching because he's dead, then there should be no problem with putting a bullet in his head just to be sure.
 
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