Abortion (Yet another serious thread)

Abortion - where do you stand?

  • I am Pro-Life

    Votes: 5 18.5%

  • I am Pro-Choice

    Votes: 16 59.3%

  • I fall somewhere in between

    Votes: 6 22.2%

  • I prefer not to state and start an arguement

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
snuffles said:
i dont really agree with abortion after rape but then that would depend on the individual and whether they would blame the child for the rape. Surley tho the best thing in the case of rape would be to get down to the drs and get the morning after pill.
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You don't agree with abortion for rape, but you would recommend the "morning after" pill - aka "abortion pill"? :s

See, if I had to have an abortion, for whatever reason, I'd not take a pill. I find that horrid. Absolutely horrid.
 
Rose said:
You don't agree with abortion for rape, but you would recommend the "morning after" pill - aka "abortion pill"? :s

See, if I had to have an abortion, for whatever reason, I'd not take a pill. I find that horrid. Absolutely horrid.
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But the pill just stops the fertilised ova from being able to attach itself to the uterus lining and so at this point it cannot even be classed as an embryo.
 
Ah, then. I suppose I need to find more information before I form such an opinion on "the pill" then.
 
I love this kind of nit-picking :evilcool:

Can the first choice be changed to anti-abortion? I haven't even read the thread yet & that struck me as ludicrous.

Pro-life indicates the opposing view prefers death. Anti-abortion is truly indicative of the option.
 
I'm 100% pro-choice. If a woman wants an abortion, then she should be able to have on. If the child is going to grow up a crappy lifestyle, it's better for them not to ever experience it, in my opinion. A friend of mine was raped and got pregnant from the horrible experience. She had an abortion and I went to the clinic with her for moral support. She wasn't no where near ready to raise a child and it would hurt her to see her child everyday and know how he/she was concieved and dread the day the child would ask where he/she came from. In my opinion, if it hasn't fully developed yet, it's not a living human, therefore a life is not lost.
 
Gonz said:
Can the first choice be changed to anti-abortion? I haven't even read the thread yet & that struck me as ludicrous.

Pro-life indicates the opposing view prefers death. Anti-abortion is truly indicative of the option.
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It depends how far you see a totally anti-abortion view........does it extend to cases such as pregnancy as a result of rape etc?

How do anti-abortion believers view cases of Eptopic pregnancy etc? :confused:
 
if the pregnancy is going to endanger the life of the mother then that opens up a whole new kettle of fish.

IMO if the mothers life is likely to end due to the fact that she is carrying an unborn child then depending on how far into the pregnancy she has gone it would need to either be aborted or done as a premature birth. Say it was around the 20 weeks mark though then if it was me I would want to be closely monitored and go in for the birth at 24 or 25 weeks. this way the child has the chance to survive.
 
As I've said before, I'm pro-choice... but it isn't the easy option you all seem to think it is.
 
I've had 2 kids. I don't think I could ever have an abortion, but, I would never suggest taking away someone’s right to make that choice.

This thread reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend at work. She a wonderful, caring, intelligent woman in her mid-50's and has 2 children. She emigrated to Canada from the Soviet Union about 15 years ago. She has had 16 abortions, and has known women who have had as many as 32.

Why?

Yes, abortion is legal and free in what is now Russia. But that isn't the reason. Contraceptives, in any form, were unavailable, very poor in quality, or astronomically expensive for your average Russian citizen. Usually all three. So abortion was and is used as a means of birth control. I read somewhere that there are over 200 abortions for every 100 live births in Russia. And ironically, there are many, many illegal abortions performed, because the waiting lists for the legal ones are too long. Most of these abortions, legal and not, are performed without anaesthesia or pain killers of any type, and most definitely do not come with any type of counselling.

The Soviet Union was the first to introduce legalized abortion in the early 1920's or 30's, I believe. Except for a brief repeal intended to increase population growth, during which time the number illegal abortions skyrocketed and women were dying in alarming numbers, it has remained legal.

Two steps forward and 3 back. It's a lesson, methinks. Abortion IMO is the last option. First and foremost are contraceptives and education in the proper use thereof. IMO, they should be free to anyone and everyone.
 
Somewhere in between. I could argue both sides if I had to.

I just think it's a disgusting method of birth control for some women.
 
Abortion... I'm very much pro-choice.
But that doesn't mean that someone can then run around and have promiscious sex, I just believe that if someone isn't ready to have a child, (be that emotionally, or finanically or what ever complications, then it is up to the couple involved as to whether or not they want to keep the child.
 
snuffles said:
def pro life.

all life is precious and so should not be destroyed once it has been created.

i dont really agree with abortion after rape but then that would depend on the individual and whether they would blame the child for the rape. Surley tho the best thing in the case of rape would be to get down to the drs and get the morning after pill.
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But snuffles, its not life. Its a zygote, a bunch of rapidly deviding cells little more than a microbe. Thing is then woman has to first get over the rape thing which generally does take more than the 72 hour maximum limit on the pill. Besides why would anyone blame the zygote. Its not a child at that point. Anyway my point with that one was I would blame the guy who did it. And if he did get you pregnant (if this were possible) would YOU want to carry this guys child? Seriously?

If someone did that to you do you reckon you could set foot out of the house or be alone at that time? Its not just physical, its mental torture. Trust me been there done that with my GF.
 
snuffles said:
if the pregnancy is going to endanger the life of the mother then that opens up a whole new kettle of fish.

IMO if the mothers life is likely to end due to the fact that she is carrying an unborn child then depending on how far into the pregnancy she has gone it would need to either be aborted or done as a premature birth. Say it was around the 20 weeks mark though then if it was me I would want to be closely monitored and go in for the birth at 24 or 25 weeks. this way the child has the chance to survive.
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So you'd forfeit the womans life AND her chances at having another child if she survives? :eh:
 
steweygrrrr said:
So you'd forfeit the womans life AND her chances at having another child if she survives? :eh:
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no.

iof the woman was going to die if the pregnacy was not terminated asap then it would have to be aborted but if it was that there was a chance that the foetus would have to be aborted and it was borderline with the min weeks for the foetus to survive oputside the womb then if it was me I would want to hang on as long as was possible without putting my life into anymore risk and hopefully be able to give birth to the child and it have a chance of surviving if possible.

if it was earlier in the pregancy then if it was me i would abort if my life was at risk but this is the only time that i would even consider it.

BTW I know what it is like to be raped people becausew I was when I was only 12 yrs old. I did become pregnant from that but I miscarried at 12 weeks so it didnt matter. At the time had I known that there was a morning after pill I would have gone to get it. I actually did not tell anyone about the rape for 7 years so I understand how people dont want to say anything and how it makes them feel because I have been there done that.
 
But I still stand by my pro-choice arguments ;) When did you turn the female marker on? Was it as a result of this thread?
 
steweygrrrr said:
But I still stand by my pro-choice arguments ;) When did you turn the female marker on? Was it as a result of this thread?
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I think I turned it on at the beginning of this thread. Unless I turned it on when I registered.

Or did someone call me a bloke and confuse me?

So many forums and so many conversations that I get lost in them all :eek:
 
no its just the 'using a pc=bloke' thing kicking in....Im tired and at work with a banging headache so I wouldnt have noticed if a horse kicked me in the arse.
 
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