Are you anti american?

Are you anti american?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 17.2%

  • No

    Votes: 20 69.0%

  • Not sure what that means so I voted this one!

    Votes: 4 13.8%
  • Total voters
    29
I can't remember what the 3x bypass cost, that was a while back, I think it was in the low 6 figures. But that was a couple years back!

But hey, people know how to prevent these things! Eat right, exercize, don't smoke, and drink a lot of alcohol ;) Then you should be fine!
 
I'm sure everyone knows I stand with ku'u on this one ... but, to quote Keala Kawa'auhau of "Sudden Rush" who puts it very simply: "we are not anti-American, we are anti-abuse of power, if anything".
 
RD_151 said:
MrBishop said:
School: When I said under $8k....I meant WAY under 8k...and at a Major University (Concordia). Cheap Schooling is a GREAT THING! Everyone and anyone with the smarts and the will to go to school, CAN!
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Well, I don't know about Canada, but in Europe, that system seems a little unfair. I argue about this issue with my wife all the time. Sure, she got all the education she wanted, and didn't pay a dime (or should I say crown) but what about the people who become destined to sweep floors and clean toilets at the age of 6 or so? Does that seem like a wonderful way to treat people. The brightest are selected very young, and they get everything free, while those of less ability get disgarded along the way. Nah, again, I prefer our way. Everyone has a chance here. Ok, not everyone is gonna go to Harvard or Yale and become president, but at least they have a choice not to sweep floors and clean toilets if they want to do something, anything better.

I don't expect Canada is as bad as Europe, but I also expect is not as easy to go to school as it is here. I think providing opportunity for all has some merit as well.

I hear ya on the heart attacks though. I took my dad in for some chest pains last year. There was nothing wrong, and still I think it came to a little over $30k, that was for 2 or 3 days in the hospital and the usual battery of tests.
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you've kind of lost me on that one with regard to european school systems (please note, europe is not a single country with a single school system - it differs from country to country, it gets tiresome seeing it constantly referred to as a single instance).
in this country (in the state schools at least) you are taught generally to a high standard. there is no seperation of people into advanced at younger ages although sets are brought in for teh higher levels. a-levels, gnvq and other post gcse qualifiactions are open to all 16+ leavers. entry to those is on aptitude but just because you aren't grade a doens't mean you get denied.

i was brought up by a low-income family with little in the way of luxury. if i was living in a purely private education system i would have been lucky to get into a-levels, let alone uni because my mum couldn't have afforded it. at least this way i got a fair chance as most others (some do go private but it is of less importance for uni access).
i'd be destined to be another low-income person just because my parents were - not for a lack of hard work but teaching isn't all that well paid when you are a single parent - and no amount of hardwork on the minimum wage would allow me to push my kids to a private school. thus the cycle is perpetuated - money, not ability gets the best schools.
 
sorry, I forgot you guys. The contient tends to be different. Sorry!

Sorry, I don't consider the UK to be Europe ;) Just kidding! You guys are more like us. Don't be offended, but it seems that those on the continent didn't consider you guys to be European either, they seem to be more serious though!
 
well seeing as we have a state funded healthcare, welfare and school system i think that most would tag us with the semi-socialist european tag on these issues.
 
Maybe, but the UK, Canada, Australia, and the US are about the same. Ok, you guys lean a little more to the left, but nothing like Northern Europe, or the continent in general. Lets face it, the sun still never sets on the British Empire, only London has to share power with Washington these days. We are all quite similar, former British colonies and the UK. The rest of Europe is a lot different! We are only slightly different. Although, I see your point. The fact is, the only thing we are reallly missing is the Health care system though. We are pretty well socialized as well, even if we don't want to admit it!
 
ris said:
i was brought up by a low-income family with little in the way of luxury. if i was living in a purely private education system i would have been lucky to get into a-levels, let alone uni because my mum couldn't have afforded it. at least this way i got a fair chance as most others (some do go private but it is of less importance for uni access).
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Much alike to the story of my life.

I went to federal kindergarten, federal primary school, private secondary, federal subsidied high school and federal uni.

Social education is by all means necessary here, private school might be nice but not everyone can afford it, hell, there are people here that can not even afford to send their kids to federal schools, 'cause they still have to buy them notebooks, pencils, pens, and all the stuff needed. The goverment also provides free text books for the primary education.

As for social healthcare, it is social but it isn't, meaning that not everybody has access to it, just the ones that pay for it, medical insurance must be given to workers by law it just happens that the goverment healthcare is the cheapest of all.
 
MrBishop said:
*Remove the Right to bear Arms
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So we can have our own saddam someday?

MrBishop said:
*Healthcare: It's free up here...we have a weaker economy..why can't it be free down there?
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Advances in medicine aren't free. We tend to the poor & when they get a better job, they get better healthcare. If your healthcare system is so good, why do Canadians, those who can afford it, come to America for private care?

unclehobart said:
The question is way too broad. I love the land, I love the people, I love the idealistic concept contained within the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, I love being in the cutting edge of technology and advancements. However, I despise the dog and pony show that government has become, tort reform is well overdue, warehouses of books with nothing but laws upon laws upon laws that restrict freedom instead of enforcing them, a muddy and conflicting top heavy tax structure.
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That sums up my thoughts-thanks unc.
 
:disgust2: You're damn right I'm anti American. And I have a gun to my head right now so don't piss me off or I'll kill one.....:retard:
 
don't let Pravda get your story...they have a short memory

MURDERERS!!

Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, gloated tonight while Baghdad was subjected to a terrifying 3 hours of massive bombardment by aircraft and cruise missiles.

Donald Rumsfeld rejoiced with the knowledge that his “shock and awe” campaign had been a “success”. In a terrorist attack of horrendous proportions, hundreds of “targets” have been razed in the city, bearing witness to Rumsfeld’s claims that the US/UK forces would unleash an attack of “unprecedented” force and scale as he banged his fist theatrically on the dais in the Pentagon.

Speaking of “targets”, Rumsfeld, like his master George Bush, proves that he has the same lizard-like cold blood as he showed to the world that he too has no regard whatsoever for the value of human life.

As Rumsfeld gloats, fires rage out of control in Baghdad. The explosions from the ordnance are so powerful that journalists hundreds of metres away from the blasts cower under tables as glass is showered around them and red mushroom clouds rise up high into the sky. Fire crews are unable to put out the raging fires because they risk being bombed by the incessant attacks.

The claims that only military installations are being targeted mean nothing, since civilians have been seen hurrying home in the middle of the Armageddon that Rumsfeld’s legions of evil have brought to the citizens of Baghdad.

How Rumsfeld can claim that the “destruction” of his “targets” has been a “success” while women and children lie screaming, butchered by flying shrapnel and shards of glass, while journalists are speaking of “high numbers of collateral damage” speaks volumes about the mindset of this sinister, evil, cold-blooded, murderous terrorist who has done to the civilians of Baghdad exactly the same as what Osama bin Laden did to New York.

Rumsfeld is a terrorist, a murderer and a war criminal.

Timothy BANCROFT-HINCHEY
PRAVDA.Ru
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I had to put it somewhere:shrug:
 
Just to help clarify a few thing both ways.
When Bish says $8000, he's talking canuck bucks. Read that as $5000.
Second, forget the semi-private. That's $50 a day. Ward is free. Semi private is if your condition won't support ward.
Third, guns don't kill children. Careless adults who don't secure their weapons do. Might as well outlaw knives, skewers, glass bottles, electrical sockets, etc. Oh, BTW Bish, where's your bow?

And Bish. If I were you, I wouldn't take too much pride in having attended Concordia. A bigger bunch of morons I've yet to see outside a sepratist reunion. Sorry pal.




As for the question at hand. I'm not an american. Given the choice, I wouldn't be american. I find the majority of americans I meet egocentric, boorish, and ignorant. But those same people can be generous, considerate, educated, and urbane, to their neighbours. Many take immense pride in their work. I respect and admire that. But many others would rather slink along on the labours of others. That I despise.

Anti american? I don't think so. There's too much variety and diversity to be anti american. What you hate in one, you wind up respecting in another. I might despise some americans, I couldn't hate them all.
 
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