Are you anti american?

Are you anti american?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • No

    Votes: 20 69.0%
  • Not sure what that means so I voted this one!

    Votes: 4 13.8%

  • Total voters
    29
There is no college in America that costs $15k/yr. Maybe Harvard or something. $15k where I live gets you a BS degree.

Too many damn guns and people being killed by them...including kids for my likeness

Those "too many people" being killed are gang bangers, man. Let them kill themselves. If it's not with guns it's another weapon.
And the kids comment. 200 kids (round about) a year are killed "accidentally"(i.e. parents leaving guns out) mainly in your crackhead type neighborhoods.
People like to distort statistics. It's your fault for listening and not following up by checking yourself.
 
It all comes down to personal responsibility. If you like suckling your government's titty, then by all means be anti-American.
If you like doing things on your own for your own, then you're an American and just don't know it :p.
 
There is a very good reason I left the question so broad! :p I had to start somewhere and see where ppls opinions lie. There are so many issues surrounding the subject to pick out one bymyself would not have worked! You the readers and posters to this forum steer the conversations to what matters to you!

Now to read the rest of the thread and post responses!
 
Professur said:
As for the question at hand. I'm not an american. Given the choice, I wouldn't be american. I find the majority of americans I meet egocentric, boorish, and ignorant. But those same people can be generous, considerate, educated, and urbane, to their neighbours. Many take immense pride in their work. I respect and admire that. But many others would rather slink along on the labours of others. That I despise.

Thank you thank you professor! Its so true.
To think thats ones self perfect whether being a single person or a nation is the sign of a delusional mind. I'm glad to see that debate is alive and well in the world and it isn't limited to blabbering idiots making up things as they go! I am a person that looks at the protests and doesn't like them BUT and its a big BUTT :p I support their ability to PEACEFULLY gather and say what they feel. That is thier right under the constitution and that is what we (americans) have fought for for centuries. Americans in general can be egotistical but in the end we have done more in trying to aid our neighbors (for thier good and of course sometimes benefits to america) with food, money, equipment, manpower and etc..

What intrigues me and frustrates me is the ppl talking about how this country is evil and a bunch of warmongers! I think Gordon Sinclair over 30 years ago sumed it up the best of what I see is the best in america even today.

gordon sinclair said:
Topic: "The Americans"

The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the earth.

As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtze. Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did.

They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Misssissippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries into help... Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped.

The Marshall Plan .. the Truman Policy .. all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans.

I'd like to see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes.

Come on... let's hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 107? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or women on the moon?

You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times ... and safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everyone to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, most of them ... unless they are breaking Canadian laws .. are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here.

When the Americans get out of this bind ... as they will... who could blame them if they said 'the hell with the rest of the world'. Let someone else buy the Israel bonds, Let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble.

Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles.

I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke.

This year's disasters .. with the year less than half-over… has taken it all and nobody...but nobody... has helped.

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Sorry all for being so long winded!
 
Professur said:
As for the question at hand. I'm not an american. Given the choice, I wouldn't be american. I find the majority of americans I meet egocentric, boorish, and ignorant. But those same people can be generous, considerate, educated, and urbane, to their neighbours. Many take immense pride in their work. I respect and admire that. But many others would rather slink along on the labours of others. That I despise.



i just hope you dont see all of us that way prof but your right there are many americans like that. its why im somewhat ashamed to be american but as i said i do love it here and i love the people i know here for the most part.



and mitch its good to see you again welcome back mate. hows the baby doin?
 
For the most part, american I find on the Net tend to be the second sort. Intelligent, insightful, and polite. Maybe 10% are the first type. But Net folk and, almost by definition, more outgoing and are seeking that international flavour. In real life, the odds swing far the other way. I met people in Albany who were totally clueless about Canada. It's less than 600 miles north, for God's sakes.
 
I was fairly ignorant of the little things about Canada until last summer. I knew all of the provinces, capitals, political system, population, PM names, agricultre, and indutrial basis. The stuff that got by me was simple slang, road signs, converting celsius temp on the fly, sparseness of trees, automotive models that I had never seen before, store names, tipping..etc. I blame that on being raised over 1000 miles from the border and 4 states away.
 
only in some provinces is there a sparseness of trees...here, you can't go 10 feet without walking into one :p
 
I know... its just that I drove the length of Saskatchewan and Alberta. Its was just ... grass... grass... grass....to the horizon. I saw prarie dogs the size of steamer trunks and sunflowers all over the place.
 
The other thing I never knew... some pronunciation got past me. Regina is a prime example. I always read that as re-jee-na, not re-jy-na.
 
I like lots of american things. There are a few americans I'd like to burn, but the vast majority I can live with so long as you stay in your country and I stay in mine - then we won't tread on each others toes or get on each others tits. :D

I don't see the point of burning flags.
 
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